Something big happening at Southwest...

ZapBrannigan said:
Thank you. I'm 52 years old, so if this one goes tango uniform I'm just done. No room in the closet for any more uniforms.
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I firmly believe Southwest is just as unlikely to disappear as any of the big 3. I think you have a solid last 13 years left in your career man. Maybe a merger in the future, but you’re quite far up a list of a solid place that has a big chunk of the market. I believe 17% domestic share according to the googles
 
JDean3204 said:
I firmly believe Southwest is just as unlikely to disappear as any of the big 3. I think you have a solid last 13 years left in your career man. Maybe a merger in the future, but you’re quite far up a list of a solid place that has a big chunk of the market. I believe 17% domestic share according to the googles
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We shall see. The gods of aviation misfortune tend to smite the arrogant.

Read the book Hard Landings for a post deregulation look at how the mighty have fallen. Pan-Am, TWA, Braniff, Eastern... all titans built by characters like Juan Trippe, Howard Hughes, Frank Boreman (for better or for worse).

May you live in interesting times.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
Vintage Rakesh Gangwal. The guy is a one trick pony. He did it at USAir, now he's pulling the same stuff at WN.

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Exactly. To dump people without ANY attempt to give them another position or make any offers...it sets a tone that may cripple the morale that keeps WN afloat. Gary Kelly bet on the culture, that went aray...but nuking it? Ok, interesting tactic.
 
ChasenSFO said:
All 4 people I know at DAL HQ (not counting a dispatcher) got laid off. Totally different positions. One of them was there 14 years and director of safety & training for the whole damn airline. Wow.

2 of them were just promoted and moved to DAL in the last year. And already eliminating the positions entirely.

I'd call that pretty big news for the airline that basically doesn't lay people off.
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Pretty sure you need a director of safety at the 121 level. Maybe he'll get unfired like the bird flu and nuke people.
 
roundout said:
Pretty sure you need a director of safety at the 121 level. Maybe he'll get unfired like the bird flu and nuke people.
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For SWAU, so for all ground ops employees (Ramp/CS/Provo/Station Ops). He was...floored.

I get the feeling he's so offended, it won't matter even if you're right. Maybe if they get called back, a lot of these people will work a bit longer...but why stay? My friend is pursuing airfield ops and ready to trade the check and title for time with the fam and back to loving airliners. I hope the others find peace; it's not your fault the airline is getting all Musky.

Their first layoffs EVER were seemingly both questionable and permanent, made over ZOOM CALLS, and with no offer for any kind of deal or movement. Not even a ramp job. Oh wait, they also told a bunch of stations they'll be expected to do more with less, and I'm guessing for less. So, what ramp jobs?

This "culture" jihad can't be undone. Written in stone.
 
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ChasenSFO said:
For SWAU, so for all ground ops employees (Ramp/CS/Provo/Station Ops). He was...floored.

I get the feeling he's so offended, it won't matter even if you're right. Maybe if they get called back, a lot of these people will work a bit longer...but why stay? My friend is pursuing airfield ops and ready to trade the check and title for time with the fam and back to loving airliners. I hope the others find peace; it's not your fault the airline is getting all Musky.

Their first layoffs EVER were seemingly both questionable and permanent, made over ZOOM CALLS, and with no offer for any kind of deal or movement. Not even a ramp job. Oh wait, they also told a bunch of stations they'll be expected to do more with less, and I'm guessing for less. So, what ramp jobs?

This "culture" jihad can't be undone. Written in stone.
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That’s pretty much the same thing a few people I know said that work at WHQ…the whole “zoom” links was very poorly executed and definitely not a reflection of the “CoHeart” culture which seemingly effectively died today


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ChasenSFO said:
For SWAU, so for all ground ops employees (Ramp/CS/Provo/Station Ops). He was...floored.

I get the feeling he's so offended, it won't matter even if you're right. Maybe if they get called back, a lot of these people will work a bit longer...but why stay? My friend is pursuing airfield ops and ready to trade the check and title for time with the fam and back to loving airliners. I hope the others find peace; it's not your fault the airline is getting all Musky.

Their first layoffs EVER were seemingly both questionable and permanent, made over ZOOM CALLS, and with no offer for any kind of deal or movement. Not even a ramp job. Oh wait, they also told a bunch of stations they'll be expected to do more with less, and I'm guessing for less. So, what ramp jobs?

This "culture" jihad can't be undone. Written in stone.
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Let me know if he has questions about airport opportunities/the industry.
 
Murdoughnut said:
SWAPA thinking its condolences on LinkedIN are helpful when most corporate employees see massive pilot pay raises as the reason
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Yeah. I do cringe a lot when I hear pilots bitch about money…there’s a weird tone deafness in this business about money where a lot of folks don’t seem to realize it’s really, really rude to talk about money in mixed company.
 
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