SoCal’s Forecast Sounds Like Fun 2/15/2021

nabbyfan said:
We get alot of planned power outages in Northern LA County due to high winds and risk of lines blowing down and starting a fire.

The city here is planning to sue Edison, like you cant just shut peoples power off all weekend and then call that a solution.

TBH, Santa Clarita/Palmdale/Lancaster would likely be better off in their own county. ZLA is 70 miles and one large mountain range away from downtown LA/Hollywood, and were still basing all our decisions on staffing and training based on whats going on in LA County, its kind of crazy.

The weather is sweet though.
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They will get away with whatever the populace allows them to get away with. Just look at the CA supreme court decision in regards to places of worship being closed still while other places opened. The court ruled against the state restrictions, and finally the state had to change their rules.

And about LA County, you are 100% correct.
 
knot4u said:
The hills separating the Palmdale area and the rest of LA aren't formidable. I understand they call them mountains and they're hard to climb and you can ski but I wouldnt consider them formidable. The only people that should be living out in the high desert are Air Force personnel and the weird desert rat people that seem to have overdosed on heat and sun and didn't seek treatment.
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I grew up out there haha.

No argument here.
 
trafficinsight said:
Shrug.

Maybe if we capitalism even harder we can solve the problems capitalism created.
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Simple question. If you managed to come up with a solution to a worldwide problem through a lot of personal money and energy spent on your own would you happily give it away and continue your life as it is now or would you want to be compensated?
 
trafficinsight said:
Shrug.

Maybe if we capitalism even harder we can solve the problems capitalism created.
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Capitalism didn’t create this. CA hasn’t improved its infrastructure for decades. It’s a complete mess. Different priorities, shall we say. And the red tape is too much to get anything done. See Maher’s clip about getting a small shed up to code taking 4 years now for solar power. It’s stuff like that. CA is annoying and too slow, and worst of all, lacks common sense.
 
Adler said:
Leaving California was the best decision I've ever made.
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You know you miss the roads.
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Versus Florida:
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Leaving LA was the best decision I ever made as well. My daily happiness has improved significantly and my fiancee has noticed. Being able to afford a beautiful house that we built new just how we wanted instead of a • old unit that needs work for the same price, not having to sit 1 hour in traffic to go anywhere or wait in line to do anything have been the biggest boosters to QOL. Plus I'm one of those strange people that actually like humidity, so the southeast feels lovely. I actually felt like SoCal was too dry.
 
knot4u said:
Simple question. If you managed to come up with a solution to a worldwide problem through a lot of personal money and energy spent on your own would you happily give it away and continue your life as it is now or would you want to be compensated?
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It's a good philosphical question. I have 20 bucks to my name at the moment and if that could change the world I'd happily give it away... but obviously there are things to worry about. I do my best to donate old clothing and things that I don't need to places where they'll do good, rather than just throw things away. I endeavor to waste as little as I can. I dont need compensation for that.

Bill Gates seems to have answered it for himself, but that's not really the same scenario is it.

I'm not sure it really applies to privatizing public utilities though.

Capitalism's goal is to provide less and less for more and more. Ideally you would pay everything you have for nothing at all... I'm not sure why people don't understand that.

Clearly as we've seen in the last couple decades PG&E was far more concerned with its shareholders returns than its public safety responsibilities, which brings us to today. So we can sue them... great. I doubt that brings much comfort to the residents of Paradise.

I have a friend who works for PG&E and his job is to drive/walk/hike around and mark trees for trimming and removal. He's had this job since long before anyone had ever heard of these issues, he complained that things weren't being done, gosh, it must be at least ten years ago now. He's on the road constantly but guess what still isn't happening the way it should be.
 
trafficinsight said:
It's a good philosphical question. I have 20 bucks to my name at the moment and if that could change the world I'd happily give it away... but obviously there are things to worry about. I do my best to donate old clothing and things that I don't need to places where they'll do good, rather than just throw things away. I endeavor to waste as little as I can. I dont need compensation for that.

Bill Gates seems to have answered it for himself, but that's not really the same scenario is it.

I'm not sure it really applies to privatizing public utilities though.

Capitalism's goal is to provide less and less for more and more. Ideally you would pay everything you have for nothing at all... I'm not sure why people don't understand that.

Clearly as we've seen in the last couple decades PG&E was far more concerned with its shareholders returns than its public safety responsibilities, which brings us to today. So we can sue them... great. I doubt that brings much comfort to the residents of Paradise.

I have a friend who works for PG&E and his job is to drive/walk/hike around and mark trees for trimming and removal. He's had this job since long before anyone had ever heard of these issues, he complained that things weren't being done, gosh, it must be at least ten years ago now. He's on the road constantly but guess what still isn't happening the way it should be.
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So your answer is you have $20 to your name and you'd give it to anyone you think might change the world? You're an airline captain right?
 
knot4u said:
So your answer is you have $20 to your name and you'd give it to anyone you think might change the world? You're an airline captain right?
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My answer is that philosophy doesn't always translate to reality, but that I give generously when I can with no expectation of compensation, but that I also don't see what that has to do with PG&E abdicating its responsibilities.

Proceed direct to a point, perhaps?
 
trafficinsight said:
My answer is that philosophy doesn't always translate to reality, but that I give generously when I can with no expectation of compensation, but that I also don't see what that has to do with PG&E abdicating its responsibilities.

Proceed direct to a point, perhaps?
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I don't have to. You stated that your philosophy doesn't translate to reality.
 
knot4u said:
Yes, I'm dumb, uncouth, simple and ugly. You're welcome to add any ism or phobic that you like, I don't care what you think of me.
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That's lucky for you, if you did you might not be able to be as much of an ass. Does that only apply to me, or is that a universal disregard?

So if you didn't want to discuss why did you ask? You do that quite often.
 
trafficinsight said:
That's lucky for you, if you did you might not be able to be as much of an ass. Does that only apply to me, or is that a universal disregard?

So if you didn't want to discuss why did you ask? You do that quite often.
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I think you're hyper vigilant regarding anything you consider offensive, in other words you go looking for it. As far as your philosophy I think it's flawed because of human nature. The only way socialism would work is if 100% of the population agreed, but human nature being what it is means that some will try to take advantage to improve their life, some by crime some by politics. It leads directly to communism, dictatorship and a police state so the folks that weren't honest in their allegiance to the socialist ideal can continue to oppress. This is the only country in modern history that has made a democratic republic work. But that's fine, topple the statues, burn the libraries, if we erase our history it'll be easier for us to forget. Problem is if you erase the past our future generations are almost guaranteed to repeat it. I've told you before I harbor no ill will, all I get in return is nonsense.
 
fholbert said:
Meanwhile in Texas.

Four million people without power, no lights in the bathroom. That’s okay, your water has been turned off too.
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On one hand, yes this is an embarrassment for the state. Especially after all the shade that Texans (myself included) threw at CA, it's time to eat some humble pie.

OTOH, every state plans on a certain level of natural disaster. CA plans on handling a 7.0 earthquake, FL plans on a Cat 3 hurricane, and Texas plans on 24-48 hours of freezing temps north of I-20. Once Mother Nature goes past any of those benchmarks the system breaks down.

Even after this debacle, I still wouldn't want the state to waste money planning on Minnesota weather in SAT every 20 years. This week sucks, but seven days from now the temperature will be in the mid 60s and the sun will be out.

The fact that Texas is on it's own grid is another problem. Despite what everyone wants to say, this isn't a Republican vs Democrat issue. The decision to not tie our grid into the rest of the country was made LONG ago. Now today, it's not feasible to retrofit the grid to be compatible with either the East or West grid.
 
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