So here's the thing...

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I'm not an attorney, nor an airline background checker. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

The matter had to be disposed of in some way ... charges dropped, deferred adjudication, probation, plea bargain, something. That's the key ... how it was disposed (remember lots of convicted criminals never see the inside of a courtroom, that's how plea bargaining works). That is what will probably show up on a background check.

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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Usually, there would have to be some kind of conviction for a criminal history to be used against you. A mere arrest, without any conviction, is not supposed to be used by any employer. What constitutes a conviction will depend a lot on state law. As a general rule, any finding of guilt by judge or jury or a plea bargain will be considered a conviction. However, there are adjudications which are a little more gray.

In Minn., for example, you can get a Continuance without Prosecution, which means that the case will be continued for a certain amount of time (i.e. 1 year), and if you do everything the court tells you to do during that time (usually, stay out of trouble), the prosecutor will dismiss. That is not supposed to show as a conviction, but there will be a record of the charge and the outcome which an employer probably would be able to get access to.

The prior advice to consult a lawyer is right on. Only someone knowledgeable about criminal law in your jursidiction will be able to explain what may and may not show up on your record.

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Crimes that would disqualify you for ten years...

(9) Aircraft piracy outside the special
aircraft jurisdiction of the United
States; 49 U.S.C. 46502(b).


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ARRRRRRRRRRR, sorry no one else said it so I took the liberty of doing so
 
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Crimes that would disqualify you for ten years...

(9) Aircraft piracy outside the special
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States; 49 U.S.C. 46502(b).

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Dear Doug,

My name is Johnny Depp. A few years ago, Orlando Bloom and I were filming Pirates Of The Carribean and we got a little carried away on the flight back to Los Angeles from the movie set.

Well, mistakes were made, but we're looking into a career in aviation...


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What if someone pressed charges against you and you were found not guilty, Would that show up on a background check? This happened 14 years ago.
 
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What if someone pressed charges against you and you were found not guilty, Would that show up on a background check? This happened 14 years ago.

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I have no idea. Check your records!
 
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What if this one time... at band camp......

FOLKS....listen closely.... as much as this has been a nice "reveal all" about your youthful indiscretions, listen to the webmaster once and for all when he says:

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Check your records!

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The power of knowledge is in YOUR hands. It's up to YOU.

If there is something on there - man up and own up to it. You did it. Live with it and be prepared to talk about it in an interview if you want to pursue this as a living!

Interviewers will most definitely show you the door faster if you start with the "it wasn't my fault" song and dance as opposed to you just being honest and saying "I was young. I messed up. Hasn't happened since."

Pretty simple.
 
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Legally, if you are found not guilty of a crime, then that's it. It never happened. It shouldn't show up on a background check because if you weren't found guilty, then nothing happened.

Let's say, for example, that you were charged by a vindictive ex-girlfriend with battery. And when you went to trial, the judge dismissed the case. Well, according to the law, it never happened. So I hope it wouldn't show up on a background check. If you're not guilty, it shouldn't.
 
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If there is something on there - man up and own up to it. You did it. Live with it and be prepared to talk about it in an interview if you want to pursue this as a living!



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I never said i wasnt man enough to admit what i did...In fact I think i went through way more than most here in trying to repair things. Im admmittedly shy to talk about the past, but certainly not afraid to take responsibility. why be so nasty...people are simply adding to the forum...dont answer if you dont want to
 
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Legally, if you are found not guilty of a crime, then that's it. It never happened. It shouldn't show up on a background check because if you weren't found guilty, then nothing happened.

Let's say, for example, that you were charged by a vindictive ex-girlfriend with battery. And when you went to trial, the judge dismissed the case. Well, according to the law, it never happened. So I hope it wouldn't show up on a background check. If you're not guilty, it shouldn't.

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An arrest, without any conviction, should not show up on a commercial background check. Also, convictions older than 10 years should not show up on a commercial background check. It would pay to . . . wait for it . . . CHECK YOUR RECORDS if you're concerned.

If you think someone is showing up that shouldn't . . . wait for it . . . consult a lawyer.

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Hey Minnesota, since you're a lawyer, can I make you an @jetcareers.com email address and I'll build an autoresponder that replies 'CHECK YOUR RECORD"?
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I never said i wasnt man enough to admit what i did...In fact I think i went through way more than most here in trying to repair things.

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Sorry triple7, my post was a generic "you", not you specifically. The original poster went out of his way to put the blame on everybody else except himself.

Yeah, the Man is trying to keep upper middle class white kids down.
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I never said i wasnt man enough to admit what i did...In fact I think i went through way more than most here in trying to repair things.

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Sorry triple7, my post was a generic "you", not you specifically. The original poster went out of his way to put the blame on everybody else except himself.

Yeah, the Man is trying to keep upper middle class white kids down.
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nah, its cool..jsut a sore spot with me.
 
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Hey Minnesota, since you're a lawyer, can I make you an @jetcareers.com email address and I'll build an autoresponder that replies 'CHECK YOUR RECORD"?
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As long as I don't have to do anything, I'm game!!

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cool! Perhaps I can call it "legal@jetcareers.com" and it'll just reply with 'CHECK YOUR RECORDS!'

Hey... I don't need your permission for that after all!
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Sorry triple7, my post was a generic "you", not you specifically. The original poster went out of his way to put the blame on everybody else except himself.

Yeah, the Man is trying to keep upper middle class white kids down. It ain't your fault. It's THE MAN!


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A generic you? and then you go on to say the original poster (that's me)? Hmmmm....am I missing something here. Wait, there's more...

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Interviewers will most definitely show you the door faster if you start with the "it wasn't my fault" song and dance as opposed to you just being honest and saying "I was young. I messed up. Hasn't happened since."


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Once again..... I KNOW IT WAS MY FAULT!!! Here I'll even quote the "original post" since I am the "original poster"
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Looking back it was the stupidest thing I've ever done

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I know it was not the right thing to do

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I know what i did was wrong and I learned my lesson.

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Hopefully, that will clear things up and if it doesn't, well then I guess it doesn't. Oh yeah, and with regards to the first quote (at the very top of this post...this one that you are reading right now...not the top of the thread) who said anything about me being an "upper middle class white kid?"
 
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not to sound all preachy and stuff but everybody f****s up every once and again. no need to rip them a new a**hole.

Remember in the Bible when they were gonna stone that prostitute and Jesus was all like "hey, let whoever is without sin cast the first stone".
 
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Remember in the Bible when they were gonna stone that prostitute and Jesus was all like "hey, let whoever is without sin cast the first stone".

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Had John Kerry been there, he would have thrown the stone before he didn't throw the stone.
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This airline pilot thing is starting to look tougher than a career in politics...
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