Slam Click Excuse?

AMG,
I get what you're saying. However, Esprit de Corps does not translate well into the civilian world. We don't have TOT deadlines and unfortunately, we aren't a family anymore. That thinking left the airlines back in the 90s, with Delta being the last holdout. Mo'Ron took care of that with 7.5.

Did you say ready rooms?
 
///AMG said:
But I'd like to like the people I work with, wherever that be, rather than being a loner in a hotel room.
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Don't misunderstand me, I want to like the people I work with as well. But if I don't get some alone time (which 8 hours of sitting next to you will not give me), you're not going to like me. I will end up with no emotional energy, and that leads to not being very personable, which leads to you thinking I'm a jerk, when I'm really just drained.

As an introvert, I try to balance the two sides of things. But it's not easy.
 
msmspilot said:
Extroverts don't understand that. Maybe that's not a fully fair statement, but I have had the same experience where I just need some me time. I've even had people tell me that I am not really an introvert because I am so personable in a crowd. They don't understand that introvert/extrovert is how you recharge, and has nothing to do with if you deal with people well or not.

I can have a good time in a group, but when it's over, I'm drained.
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The best way I've heard it described to me was an, "introverted people person".
 
bc2209 said:
The best way I've heard it described to me was an, "introverted people person".
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In my case it was careful practice because I knew I had to deal with people, and if I'm going to do it, I might as well not suck at it. But that description works. :)
 
///AMG said:
Some of you guys haven't been part of a ready room before. Common courtesy is a "quick turn"......hit the hotel, 5 minute turn into clothes/shower/aftershave/manscaping, and then you are out on the town. You make a quick 2 minute call home and send them love and promise to call/text later because you have to run to dinner. Risk your life as a team, you also go out on the town as a team. Whether that be a family of 16 or a crew of half that. You invite the A holes too, because when you start excluding the unpopular, a fault line develops professionally. Learn to love them too.

Ok so I'm not an airline guy, and I have no idea how that works. But that is the standard I am used to. I'd guess your salty old ex Navy captain expects the same. I'm talking completely out of my butt here, and mostly kidding (although the above description isn't fictional in my life), but seriously......you are visiting a city, away from home.......I'd go out and have a good time, provided that crew rest isn't violated. Part of being a team is learning to spend lots of time with the people who you wouldn't normally associate with IMHO.
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Civilian world doesn't do ready rooms. We don't put our life on the line. We probably fly with someone once (in bigger organizations). You show up 30 to 1+30 prior to block out.

If my flying partner is a bag for the next 12 hours, I sure as hell don't want to spend the time off with him. He had ample time to be nice and team build.

Just another difference. Different job, different expectations.
 
surreal1221 said:
Uncertified claim that you are rocking Doc Martens.
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I have terrible, flat feet.

Nothing ironic with therapeutic shoes and orthopedic problems.

Some folks wear a beard because it's "ironic", some folks are actually Psycho Killers (Qu'est Que C'est…)
 
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Nick said:
If I want to stay in for any reason whatsoever I just say so.

I usually am game to go out for dinner with the crew, or if we're somewhere good with a nice long layover, I'll be happy to hang out with them and do whatever touristy thing it might be in that city.

But by no means do I feel obligated to not slam-click.

Lots of people have stuff they can get done at the hotel room.
- Personal finance/paying the monthly bills online
- Reading
- Something related to another source of income if applicable
- Yoga in the room or workout in the fitness room
- Nap
- Think about what their next JC forum signature/avatar will be
- etc.

There need not be a reason to justify staying in to a co-worker.

Even more so if you have a sneaking suspicion that your dinner is going to be spent listening to how it's BS that the system denied them a trip trade for next week, or it sucks that we have a four hour sit tomorrow, or blah blah blah.

But it's great to go out and chat with the folks that don't talk shop the entire time!
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I'll add homework to that list.

Yeah, be honest. It works best.
 
///AMG said:
That's pathetic.......trust me, after I'm done and gone, I don't want anyone calling me my weird and un-intentionally racially offensive acronym of a callsign. That said, I do think there are some "team building" (I know I know that's lame) habits associated with eating/sleeping/breathing/flying with a family of 16 that are still salient in the civilian world. Maybe I'm wrong. But I'd like to like the people I work with, wherever that be, rather than being a loner in a hotel room.
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"My call sign is FUNGUS, it's an acronym...Eff you new guy, you suck..."
 
If I have some extra money ill go out but after the 14k paycut (6k lump) I pass a lot. Was a broke FO for one year, don't intend to be ever again.
 
You know what I can't stand, people who say they're coming out with no intention. I'm always nice and ask if ya want to meet up for dinner. Personally, I don't care if you do or don't, I'm fine on my own. Now when you know you're going to sit in the hotel room all night, that's bs. Thanks for saying you wanted to do dinner at 6:30 and text me at 6:40 saying you're going to stay in.

Guy has done that time 3 time in one trip. Also, at my current job, we can be on the road for 2 weeks at a time. That's a lot of time to spend with someone who isn't @CK's mom...
 
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