Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Shut 'er down.
SkyWest to lose 157 CR2s by December 2015; Adding 32 E175s
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learhawkerbe400
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People complaining about parking 50 seaters?
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Sweetheart deals on CPAs.
scooter2525
Very well Member
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
4 of the 200s are Delta flying. 11 are from the US Air flying. So it's not UAL replacing 157 50 seaters. More like "UAL replacing 142 50 seaters." Of those only 11 are from SKW airlines side. Doesn't look good for the L-XJT side
eightballfreight
Mission accomplished
First and foremost I hope nobody is put on the street due to this.
I've wanted to invest in Skyw for a while but haven't because of this. Essentially these planes go to work ever day and lose money and that no way reflects the pilots flying them.
As Joe said, this is a great many seats coming off when ual could stand to ADD capacity and I don't know if ual pilots can comment if their current small narrow body aircraft fleet have the ability to pick up a few more flights a day. That is the wild card.
So a few of these may get extended with money making contracts until ual can bring on more small narrow body aircraft.
While tough for the pilots, cutting this flying is great for Skyw inc and shareholders.
I've wanted to invest in Skyw for a while but haven't because of this. Essentially these planes go to work ever day and lose money and that no way reflects the pilots flying them.
As Joe said, this is a great many seats coming off when ual could stand to ADD capacity and I don't know if ual pilots can comment if their current small narrow body aircraft fleet have the ability to pick up a few more flights a day. That is the wild card.
So a few of these may get extended with money making contracts until ual can bring on more small narrow body aircraft.
While tough for the pilots, cutting this flying is great for Skyw inc and shareholders.
BE19Pilot
Flying a Box
I believe that the future at a regional is based upon everyone being on a 12/4 pay scale. This will discourage career regional pilots, staff mainline 100% and maintain the cost metrics for the regionals at the lowest possible level. Of course, I am just theorizing here. "Meat in the seat, as cheaply as possible" is the primary objective despite all the rhetoric about safety, experience, etc...espoused by both union and management.
"It looks like they are going to try to save Skywest at the expense of Expressjet."
I think that the intent was to use Expressjet to maintain SKW cash-flow while they re-tooled with E175s and whatever else they are getting. A lot of arguments can be made to the contrary, but I think SKW knew exactly what they were doing when they orchestrated the XJT/ASA deal. Time will tell, but certainly bears watching to see how the whole thing plays out.
"It looks like they are going to try to save Skywest at the expense of Expressjet."
I think that the intent was to use Expressjet to maintain SKW cash-flow while they re-tooled with E175s and whatever else they are getting. A lot of arguments can be made to the contrary, but I think SKW knew exactly what they were doing when they orchestrated the XJT/ASA deal. Time will tell, but certainly bears watching to see how the whole thing plays out.
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JustinS
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It looks that way. I don't see where else United can go to contract out more flying... Unless those 50 seaters magically find their way to a carrier attempting to operate them for cheaper which I just don't see happening.
Soku39
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You'd do well to go elsewhere bud.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
SeanD
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I think it has more to do with pilots losing their jobs. Primarily at XJT on the ERJ side. There are quite a few lifers over there.
learhawkerbe400
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I feel for those dudes but that is the risk you take when you make a decision to be a lifer at a regional.
SeanD
Well-Known Member
The ones I know didnt choose it. I dont believe they intended to be lifers. The opportunities, at the time, just weren't available for them to move on. I really cant say they took a risk, because most of them, at the time, didnt see it like that. I suppose its just the nature of the industry.
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
As to lifer regional pilots, I saw a lot of ASA so called 'lifer' captains with brand new suits on at OBAP all week.
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Most of the guys that had the chance to go to CAL had some issues come up (usually having a kid) and declined class slots. At least that is the case with the senior guys I have flown with.
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bike21
9-5 Ruins Lives
It'll be interesting times for sure, really hope no one loses their job over this. One interesting thing to note, SkyW has done a decent job at allowing leases to expire, picking up a/c out of the desert on the cheap and putting them on pro-rate routes and actually making money. Same thing could happen on the East side of the house and might lessen the burden some though with the attrition it may not be necessary. Good luck to all and may all of us have a comfy mainline jerb sooner than later!
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