Skywest pilot antics in IAH

MikeD said:
This is one of the most interesting posts in this thread. But it makes me wonder, if this is true as-written, then who in their right mind would want to be in this business? What is remotely positive in terms of the job itself, assuming this to be true? Who wants to work any job, having a proverbial target on their back 24/7, and with an employer always looking to make the suck, suck more?
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People who like to head home on the last day of work, and not be obligated to have anything to do with it for a bunch of days off.

Those seeking to lower the numbers of the masses can have at it in their 60 hour workweek.
 
Seggy said:
We can show it's a people business in other ways besides doing other people's jobs risking a ton of liability on oneself.
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Also true (see: running the APU when it's boiling hot or freezing cold).

On the EM2, no tools are required to open the cabin-cargo access. Other Embreeair airplanes may vary, but it's not a non-routine or controversial thing on the Brasilia.
 
MikeD said:
This is one of the most interesting posts in this thread. But it makes me wonder, if this is true as-written, then who in their right mind would want to be in this business? What is remotely positive in terms of the job itself, assuming this to be true? Who wants to work any job, having a proverbial target on their back 24/7, and with an employer always looking to make the suck, suck more?
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I'm positive, else I wouldn't go to work. I like to go the extra yard, but I'm not foolish enough to bear undue liability repeatedly.

For every operation short of properly trained personnel, is a station manager more concerned with his downward sloping cost curve as he pushes for that promotion where everyone else takes up his slack.
 
Derg said:
If it involves a tool, and I don't mean a micromanaging captain, don't dick with it.

That's not union, that's the FAA that'll tap that ass.
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We had MOC approval to do it, but you're right: In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea.

Sometimes, it's just hard being...human. :)
 
dasleben said:
We had MOC approval to do it, but you're right: In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea.

Sometimes, it's just hard being...human. :)
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Spock wants to talk to you.

TallFlyer said:
Oh snap!

That said, in a Borg / Vogon cage match I think I know who would win.
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Probably the Borg...but then they'd have bureaucracy, and that would be the end of that. Think Janeway - "Something you assimilated..."
 
It's so nice to see that nerd-dom didn't die alongside my virginity!
 
Whats pathetic to me is that somebody goes out of their way to film another pilot helping out, ridicules him for doing so and then posts it to youtube, and then opens a thread about how "stupid" said person is. Look in the mirror. You sound more narrow-minded than a passenger that screams at and blames CS for weather delays.

I was a ramper for years, and you know what, it didn't bother me at all if a pilot helped out if we were understaffed. It doesn't bother me if the flight attendant gives me a trash bag for the flight deck, it doesn't bother me that other pilots help with seatbelts or takes a UM to customer service. They aren't required to, but they do it to help out. What does bother me though is how some people inherently feel the need to drowned out positivity with their negativity.

OJI, umm ok. I really dont think anyone should feel the need to do that. But who cares if they do. Stop feeling threatened by somebody doing it, thats their decision. I've taken several bags off the plane, tagged them and taken them to a ramper... who cares. How cynical can it get. It does seem ironic though that you can say, oh no I cant put 3 bags onto a cart here, its a hazard, but then you could easily help a FA put her heavy ass bag in the overhead bin 2 seconds later.
 
cactusjuba said:
It does seem ironic though that you can say, oh no I cant put 3 bags onto a cart here, its a hazard, but then you could easily help a FA put her heavy ass bag in the overhead bin 2 seconds later.
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One is covered by your job description the other is not. If you get hurt doing something with in the scope of your job, you are protected. If you get hurt doing something outside of your job, you are not.

You're fooling yourself if you think the company doesn't care. Management does not care about you. They don't care what you were doing. The only thing that matters, is that they don't have to pay out the workers comp. if the board found out that a manager approved workers comp on a claim that could have been denied, they will, without hesitation, fire that manager.

I pose this question, have you ever seen upper management pick up additional duties to "help out". When was the last time that you saw a CEO toss bags while doing a publicity tour on the ramp?

If they want you to do more, then they need to pay you more. Tossing bags is not going to help the company survive. In this market, it's borderline foolish to have "loyalty". Loyalty that only applies in one direction is not loyalty, it's servitude. If you keep doing extra work without compensation, then you will never get paid for it.

Calling somebody lazy because they don't want to work for free? Because they don't want to be taken advantage of? I didn't toss bags, I didn't wash my windows. I didn't push wheelchairs up the jetbridge. I didn't run around trying to get the rampies to do their job. I didn't mind IAD and air serve, because all that BS was not my job. When they were ready, then we boarded. If they were not ready when we got their, we called our dispatch, and they called UA for the delay code. Trust me, TOD-5 and no boarding because the ramp isn't ready, means gate is calling their sup. so they don't take the delay. Their sup. calls the ramp lead, ramp lead yells at rampies and they show up. Much easier than running around yelling at people. Otherwise, I sit in my air conditioning, and wait.
 
Different line, but-

Back in my 1900FO days, I was in Boston, and walked out to a plane we had just been swapped into. Opened the door standing to the left to do the preflight. -the 1900 had a hydraulic door snubber that was attached to the door via cable. Under full load (open) the system had close to a 3000psi charge. It was often said stay away from it, as it would damn near take your arm off.- I had learned earlier that you never stood under a 1900 door when you open it, because if the snubber was broken, the door would damn near kill you. So I'm standing there as the door opens, and go figure the snubber cable breaks, one end hit my bicep in the middle. I was wearing a shirt, coat, and trench coat and it still cut me. My entire arm was numb, and I had a huge and immediate bruise.

Of course I can't fly, see a DR etc. then I get a call from the CP. one would think he would call to see if I was ok... Nope. Instead I was 1 plane ticket away from a carpet dance for not properly preflighting a cable on the inside of a closed door. He went on and on about how I was supposed to hold the door so it opened slowly and I could inspect this high tension cable as the door opened. They were going to deny my claim due to negligence on MY part.

Soo.. Seriously, what do you think will happen if you slip a disk loading pax bags?
 
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