SKW finally helps hold the line (pay package results)
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B767
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Not that I'm aware of. I have NO idea where the "negotiators" got the info to present to the company.
I don't. Our prez is a good competent guy given the SAPA tools he has to work with. Which tools are company funds. Total conflict of interests, from a pilot's perspective.
B767
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I think there's something in the RLA about how the employee's representation cannot be supported by the company i.e. funds.
Here ya go scooter:
"Pilots,
This evening a vote to secure significant enhancements to compensation and quality of life for SkyWest pilots concluded. As you’re aware, the proposed package was not approved by the majority of the pilot group. Clearly, I’m disappointed by the outcome of the vote, specifically because you chose not to approve a package that served to address what you’ve shared as your priorities and key objectives, including quality of life improvements through increased staffing, profit sharing and retirement enhancements.
That said, I remain confident that we can navigate a successful future together. We’re operating in a world that was drastically different than a year ago, and will be equally different by this time next year. As an airline, we’re focused on securing our success – and viable careers – over the long-term. That means continuing to take very good care of our people while remaining more agile than anyone else so that we can continue to respond to new opportunity. Our capacity to stay competitive in our ability to deliver a superior product at a viable cost remains a cornerstone of our business. We can’t price ourselves out of the competition, nor will we make capricious decisions for short-term gain.
Our desire to make improvements and secure viable careers for every SkyWest pilot’s future remains my primary objective, and I look forward to continuing work with you to make it happen.
Fly Safe,
Captain T.T. Gallo"
My takeaway is that what they presented is what they thought we wanted. Total joke. That is what was insulting, along with the "continuing to take good care" line.
Yuuuuuup!
This is essentially why I, a conservative in many areas, am totally pro-union for SKW.
Well it took a lot of unpaid work, reserve assignments out of seniority, line awards out of seniority, policy reinterpretations, and credit value lies from scheduling (all with zero recourse) to get me over to the union camp (oh yes, and don't forget the beatings from my fellow JCers over union comments). I spent my first 2 years here firmly anti union, but the last 1.5 years has put me squarely over the top, and into the union bandwagon. So here I am.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Seriously. A regional pilot group finally rejects garbage, and we are criticized for it? I wish I could say I was surprised, but whatever... Says volumes really.
Anyway, good job folks! Proud of our group today.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Pro-ALPA, pro-SkyWest, and these opinions are NOT exclusive.
ComplexHiAv8r
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So does SAPA have to be disbanded to do a union drive?
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
No. In fact, the company uses sapa to distribute their crap propaganda, at least when the board and presidency allow it. Sapa is, in reality, a company insurance policy against a union.
Seggy
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A year ago a SAPA Rep told a leader of another Pilot group they should have gone out of business instead of agreeing to the deal they did. He failed to grasp the deal was done in bankruptcy. Talk about solidarity!
Also, considering the whipsaw potential that has existed since August 2010 and the lack of any substantive discussion to correct that potential any solidarity talk is just talk. Not action.
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SlumTodd_Millionaire
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I haven't seen anyone criticize you for it. Show me.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
If I'm getting this right, @Seggy, you're simply saying that the term "hold the line" simply isn't appropriate for a non-unionized pilot group because they are not part of "the line"? Or is it that there's no evidence of the Skywest pilot group having any impact on "the line", because without a real CBA and unionization, the contract at Skywest isn't enforceable by the pilot group, anyway, regardless of what it says?
Not criticizing -- just an outsider trying to understand the dynamic here.
Not criticizing -- just an outsider trying to understand the dynamic here.
Seggy
Well-Known Member
Exactly.
I have a feeling that management will make changes to the pay structure there because of their recruiting needs. First year folks will get a raise, while the folks that have been there will need to 'renegotiate' the pay package.
They have an impact on negotiations even though they aren't unionized. Management loves to show Skywest pay rate as being higher slightly than other regionals, but that doesn't paint the entire picture. Their costs are less because of their work rules, benefits etc.
That isn't helpful in negotiations.
Screaming_Emu
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Wow.
"I know what is best for you!"
Instead of the obvious "I guess I didn't know what you wanted."
Reminds me of a calculus teacher I had in college. Class average on the final exam was a 45. He didn't "believe" in curves. When the "problem" is that widespread maybe you're the •.
I will argue that we are holding the line (if only now, not in the past) better than the unionized pilots who took the whipsaw bait (envoy, endeavor, trans). Not that what we just did is good enough, but its better than actively taking concessions, and its a clear step in the right direction. So, I feel like we are holding the line the best we can.
You are correct that SKW does whatever they want regardless of written policy. And that is where we need a union drive badly. But again, after alpa blew all that money last time they may hesitate to begin another drive. I hope I'm wrong.