Skiles and Age 65+

thepotato232 said:
I've seen that 66.49 quoted elsewhere absent any supporting information. Just so I'm clear then:

That's the average age of all 2031 confirmed deceased subjects of the survey, including those who unfortunately died well before retirement age ("Age 21 to Age 90"), and exclusive of an undetermined number of respondents who were still alive? Or to put it another way, a deceased 21 year old had statistical weight in that 66.49 figure, but any number of living octogenarians did not?

I don't mean any hostility by asking, that's just some pretty important context.
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Looks like the average age of a dead pilot is 66.49. That is not the same thing as the average lifespan of a pilot.
 
It’s probably the ACMI and freight world brining these numbers down. I can’t imagine running these schedules for three decades and not having medical issues in my 60’s because of it.
 
tlove482 said:
Looks like the average age of a dead pilot is 66.49. That is not the same thing as the average lifespan of a pilot.
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That's what I was getting at, yeah. 66.49 years as the average age of all deceased pilots in a sample size is a very different thing from expected age of death after retirement, which is what I've heard it cited as. I was smart-person-adjacent for much of my early life, and I know how they would feel about pilots doing math on the internet, let alone applied statistics.

Anyway, not trying to drag the thread into a ditch, just very happy to have some context for that number as often as I've heard it come up in conversation.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I always respond “my controls” when they say “your jet”.

Only a couple more weeks now…


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Over here when passing off the jet to the next crew it's common for them to say "Good jet"

I generally say "good airplane".

I also refuse to say "on the deck" and "got 'em' on the fish finder"
 
ZapBrannigan said:
Over here when passing off the jet to the next crew it's common for them to say "Good jet"

I generally say "good airplane".

I also refuse to say "on the deck" and "got 'em' on the fish finder"
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Personally I hate the "good jet" thing in the jetway. One captain walked past me saying "good jet, oh yeah except the APU is MEL'ed". I've had people say this with open write ups in the logbook so I just disregard it entirely now.

The other one is the weather briefing. I flew with a captain that was so hilarious and he hated the jetway weather brief. At Kona he saw the inbound crew approaching and was like "I got the walkaround" and he bailed. The dumpy inbound captain walked up to me and said "well the rides are good...". I interrupted it and said "we are going to San Diego". They were inbound from Seattle. "Well we could hear that there were good rides on the HF"...

Yeah sure you listed to HF the whole way across on a CPDLC aircraft buddy.

"OK thanks..."
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
The other one is the weather briefing. I flew with a captain that was so hilarious and he hated the jetway weather brief. At Kona he saw the inbound crew approaching and was like "I got the walkaround" and he bailed. The dumpy inbound captain walked up to me and said "well the rides are good...". I interrupted it and said "we are going to San Diego". They were inbound from Seattle. "Well we could hear that there were good rides on the HF"...

Yeah sure you listed to HF the whole way across on a CPDLC aircraft buddy.

"OK thanks..."
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Fingers covers pretty much the entire track (err... route) system, north to south. And between Southwest and Delta if there is so much of a ripple out there, you are going to hear about it. I'm totally willing to deal with 15 seconds of conversation to maybe get some data that will help avoid some bumps for the passengers. That said, normally the aircraft sits long enough on a turn (or it's interntional so the other crew gets shuffled to customs) we don't see the other crew.
 
BobDDuck said:
Fingers covers pretty much the entire track (err... route) system, north to south. And between Southwest and Delta if there is so much of a ripple out there, you are going to hear about it. I'm totally willing to deal with 15 seconds of conversation to maybe get some data that will help avoid some bumps for the passengers. That said, normally the aircraft sits long enough on a turn (or it's interntional so the other crew gets shuffled to customs) we don't see the other crew.
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Oh wow. I had no idea there is a freq called fingers. No idea! Oh and no idea it was used for Oceanic. Wow amazing. I thought it was for talking to my friends in the pattern at my flight school when I fly a rented 152.

You're so cool!!
 
Skåning said:
Seriously! Why do all the geezers all say that??
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I would guess it’s common among former Alaska 135 trash who spent a lot of time flying where “the Alaska jet” was the only jet traffic in the area, and might have been the first and only jet they flew. Not sure how many of those guys are in the PDX/SEA bases but I bet there’s a lot that in ANC
 
A300Capt said:
Minus the “frisbee” part…..welcome to my world now!:cool:
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As a long time frisbee golfer I’m contractually obligated to look down my nose at stuffy, polo-wearing stick golfers with their carts and their level, open fairways, but I have to respect a guy who’s retired and enjoying a hobby!
 
Roger Roger said:
I would guess it’s common among former Alaska 135 trash who spent a lot of time flying where “the Alaska jet” was the only jet traffic in the area, and might have been the first and only jet they flew. Not sure how many of those guys are in the PDX/SEA bases but I bet there’s a lot that in ANC
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Can confirm. That and all the villagers would talk about flying to Nome or Bethel or whatever village hub to catch the jet.

Also the Navajo was “the fast plane”. *pulls down sunglasses*. Damn right.
 
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