Since the airlines might actually hire over the next decade..........

I would add that you should follow the dress code instructions that the company give you. At my last interview, the invitation stated "business casual" but lots of people still showed up with suits and ties. I *heard* that those people lost points. They weren't necessarily sunk over the issue, but the people doing the interview took it to mean they didn't read or follow directions carefully.
 
That's disappointing, because a lot of pilots are still used to some of the old games that used to be played in interviews. For example, way back in the old days, a guy by the name of John Dresser used to be in charge of pilot hiring at Continental Express. He was infamous across the industry with anyone who was looking for a regional job. One of his classic ploys was to tell you to take off your suit jacket to be a little more comfortable during the interview. He was checking to see whether you'd take it off or not. If you did, you lost points and probably wouldn't be hired. If you politely declined and kept on the jacket, you were viewed favorably. He didn't consider it professional to take off your suit jacket during the interview, apparently, even though he offered it when you walked in.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Non-union airline.
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Meh. Works for them. I've got a number of friends at JetBlue who are more than happy with their non-union situation, and will probably vote to keep one off the next time it comes up for a vote. They like where they work, have solid pay/work rules, work well with management, and simply don't want to turn their company into "just another airline." Can't say I blame them.
 
dasleben said:
Meh. Works for them. I've got a number of friends at JetBlue who are more than happy with their non-union situation, and will probably vote to keep one off the next time it comes up for a vote. They like where they work, have solid pay/work rules, work well with management, and simply don't want to turn their company into "just another airline." Can't say I blame them.
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Had a LCA jumpseater yesterday trying to convince us that the reason for the TA rush is Delta wants to buy JetBlue to keep AA from buying them. Either way, I think their days as an independant are numbered. :(
 
Cptnchia said:
Had a LCA jumpseater yesterday trying to convince us that the reason for the TA rush is Delta wants to buy JetBlue to keep AA from buying them. Either way, I think their days as an independant are numbered. :(
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Yikes!

Though, we all know that LCA rumors come true every time. ;)
 
ATN_Pilot said:
That's disappointing, because a lot of pilots are still used to some of the old games that used to be played in interviews. For example, way back in the old days, a guy by the name of John Dresser used to be in charge of pilot hiring at Continental Express. He was infamous across the industry with anyone who was looking for a regional job. One of his classic ploys was to tell you to take off your suit jacket to be a little more comfortable during the interview. He was checking to see whether you'd take it off or not. If you did, you lost points and probably wouldn't be hired. If you politely declined and kept on the jacket, you were viewed favorably. He didn't consider it professional to take off your suit jacket during the interview, apparently, even though he offered it when you walked in.
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What a toolbag.
 
dasleben said:
Meh. Works for them. I've got a number of friends at JetBlue who are more than happy with their non-union situation, and will probably vote to keep one off the next time it comes up for a vote. They like where they work, have solid pay/work rules, work well with management, and simply don't want to turn their company into "just another airline." Can't say I blame them.
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I've been at JetBlue for just over six years. I was against bringing in a union for a long time. Unfortunately, things have been a-changing for a long time now, and not for the better. There have been lots of promises made and broken. We get new rigs, but we lose other good deals to pay for them. Our insurance is awful and getting worse. The company says they are committed to making our total compensation package 'industry standard', then changes the peer set and redefines terms to make our package sound better than it really is. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

I very much enjoy working here but am looking forward to the next union vote passing. The first on failed 66/34%. The second failed only 52/48%. Even many of the new guys are seeing the luster quickly fade. I have come to realize that for my own professional well-being, or maybe just to have a little more say in the big discussions, I want a CBA. Currently ALPA is our best avenue for that. The idea of an internal union came and went. Management made it perfectly clear they would consider JBPA a "third party" and would be hostile towards it. A JBPA would be bled dry and go the way of NPA.

I wouldn't discourage anyone from coming here. I work with good people, most of the time anyway. We just have to get our shtuff in one sock and start having a say in things before more is stripped away from us.
 
Fins Up said:
I've been at JetBlue for just over six years. I was against bringing in a union for a long time. Unfortunately, things have been a-changing for a long time now, and not for the better. There have been lots of promises made and broken. We get new rigs, but we lose other good deals to pay for them. Our insurance is awful and getting worse. The company says they are committed to making our total compensation package 'industry standard', then changes the peer set and redefines terms to make our package sound better than it really is. A lot of smoke and mirrors.

I very much enjoy working here but am looking forward to the next union vote passing. The first on failed 66/34%. The second failed only 52/48%. Even many of the new guys are seeing the luster quickly fade. I have come to realize that for my own professional well-being, or maybe just to have a little more say in the big discussions, I want a CBA. Currently ALPA is our best avenue for that. The idea of an internal union came and went. Management made it perfectly clear they would consider JBPA a "third party" and would be hostile towards it. A JBPA would be bled dry and go the way of NPA.

I wouldn't discourage anyone from coming here. I work with good people, most of the time anyway. We just have to get our shtuff in one sock and start having a say in things before more is stripped away from us.
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Good post, thanks for the insight.
 
Thanks for all the info/advice from everybody. What I ended up doing was getting one last use out of the dark navy suit I already had. I plan on picking up a nice suit or two when I go to HK next to visit my good bud who flys for serious money at job he got while wearing khakis and a button up shirt with his logbook at home.
 
Cptnchia said:
Rumor has it that the top 500 will be offered an early out in the new contract. That is what is driving the early hiring rumor.
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The Top 500s that I've talked to (n = 10 or so) are "full pay to the last day" guys. But we'll see.
 
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