Bumblebee
Commodore
Oh right....it must be by "Decree" Your Highness?!?!?
SIC in C90
- Thread starter juxtapilot
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Ok so this has been thrown around pretty good but the bottom line is Only log the legs which you are the one flying. I am pretty sure you don't need a type rating in the C90 all the way up to the B100. (maybe I am wrong, someone correct if need be please.) I have been watching this thread because I am in the same boat. Soon will be in the right seat in a B100 when flying Government officals. So I figure I will only log legs I fly.
N519AT
Ahh! This is how I change this!
Huh? Not sure if that's meant to be a dig or not.
I'm there because people in the company want me there.
N519AT
Ahh! This is how I change this!
The 300 and 350 are the only King Airs that require a type. Multi-Engine land for all other models.
Bumblebee
Commodore
sorry bro.
I was teasing...completely. I used to ride on the 135 flights and then fly the 91 legs myself. It was by "Royal Decree" all this talk about the law and stuff got me going.
N519AT
Ahh! This is how I change this!
Ahh, no problem. I see.
Just another mis-understood post on the internet. A first, I'm sure.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Im guessing some of the other pilots are CFIs as well. Maybe as you start on some legs they could give you instruction and log dual. After that I would log only the legs, typically the empty ones, that you are sole manipulator. That whole required by the state thing just doesnt matter. Hows Curry?
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
As it pertains to any certificate or rating, yes. But I log all kinds of things, training included, that is either not required by the FARs or not given by a CFI. I log glider tows flown. I log fuel consumption. I probably log much more than I need to for dual given, but I have a bad memory. I log when someone pukes in the aircraft (with a smiley face).
I've logged right seat (front seat for me typically) time that technically I can't, I just don't put anything for TT, and don't add it up. Mostly because it was a unique airplane and in 50 years when I look back, I want to remember that I flew whatever it was and where and when. Then again, I'm not interviewing for a flying job.
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
Some operators just want to know your experience in type. They don't care if you are required or not. You could keep this separate from your official FAA logbook by making a new column, using an electronic logbook, or a separate logbook all together to avoid any problems.
juxtapilot
Snowflake
Doesn't the military fly 2 crew on the C90? Right seat guy still log nothing?
juxtapilot
Snowflake
That's what the guy flying this has been doing... If he were to look for a C90 job elsewhere they'd probably not care how he logged it anyway. At least not in his location.
The pilot who is not the Pilot in Command logs "PI," which means "Pilot." Basically the same as SIC in the civilian world.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Damn that breaker it is on is touchy...
Fly_Unity
Well-Known Member
Actually an SIC is required for all 135 IFR passenger operation.
but.. you can/may get an exemption from that rule if you have an autopilot...
Same thing as you said, but worded slightly different.
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
BTW, its not a logbook. It is a love story.
Bumblebee
Commodore
Oh no....thanks for the clarification. That means that some 135 Operators may require two pilots, while those with an exemption (for the autopilot) may only require one. An important distinction....well done
Oh no....thanks for the clarification. That means that some 135 Operators may require two pilots, while those with an exemption (for the autopilot) may only require one. An important distinction....well done
Even the operators that have an exemption to use an autopilot in lieu of an SIC are not REQUIRED to use the exemption. In other words, they are ALLOWED to use an autopilot in place of the SIC, but they do not have to do so. If they decide to put an SIC on board, he can log the time as a required crewmember (even if the autopilot is on!).