Shoulder Harnesses

mikecweb said:
Does your booster seat interfere with the shoulder harness?
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Booster seat on a 727?

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Roger Roger said:
We put pax in the copilot seat on the caravan. It's awful.
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I'd happily put up another seat before putting a passenger in the copilot seat in the van when I could help it. In the Navajo it was nearly unavoidable.

More on topic the pax in the Navajo invariably take the shoulder strap and try to just plug it directly into the buckle.

"My seatbelt is broken!"
 
ShortField said:
I'd happily put up another seat before putting a passenger in the copilot seat in the van when I could help it. In the Navajo it was nearly unavoidable.

More on topic the pax in the Navajo invariably take the shoulder strap and try to just plug it directly into the buckle.

"My seatbelt is broken!"
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I don't know why but for some reason putting an 11th seat in the caravan and leaving the copilot empty just isn't done here. I don't mind having pax there most of the time, but explainin the seat belt got a little old.
 
Pilot121 said:
As long as we're talking about restraint systems...
Why do pax only have lap belts, but pilots have 5 point harnesses in commercial aircraft?
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The way I explain it to people is if we got tossed around really good for a myriad of reasons (flight control malfunctions, turbulence, etc.) passengers would probably like us to be able to stay glued to our seat so we can try to fly the airplane without our bodies being thrown about the cockpit.
 
The easiest way to pick out a new hire is seeing them sitting there at the gate before the preflight checklist with the harness on.

I put mine on at the before takeoff checklist and it comes off after we're cleaned up and underway. It comes back on at the approach checklist (10,000 AGL) and off once we're safely clear of the runway.
 
And I've neeeeeever forgot mine.

Transition Checklist:
Seat belts/shoulder harness........securing on the left.

Landing roll out....some thing feels kinda weird.....oooops.
 
I've flown with some people where it seemed their shoulder harnesses were attached to the squat switch. Those things were off before the gear was up.
 
@mikecweb Just for reference (don't really care what anyone thinks), after flying for a multitude of airlines, I only recall ever seeing one pilot wear shoulder harnesses in cruise (excluding flights with no real cruise portion like southeast Alaska 737 flights). Otherwise most go on between startup and takeoff, off between gear up and 10k, on again between 18k and final approach, and off again between rollout and gate, all of which just depend on the individual pilot. But I've never been bothered by what anyone else did. Personally my times of concern to wear it are takeoff for an RTO and landing for a sudden stoppage from a higher speed. I figure taxiing you'd have to be taxiing pretty fast to need them. And in cruise... Maybe severe turbulence but usually when turbulence has started to get that bad I'm more focused on slowing down or getting out of it. I've never seen an airline guy put them on in turbulence. I understand the thought about having them in a war bird but I've flown lots of airplanes without them and I personally just don't see it as a huge concern. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
The easiest way to pick out a new hire is seeing them sitting there at the gate before the preflight checklist with the harness on.

I put mine on at the before takeoff checklist and it comes off after we're cleaned up and underway. It comes back on at the approach checklist (10,000 AGL) and off once we're safely clear of the runway.
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Ugh, I wish that it wasn't on my (FAA-approved) checklist to put them on prior to pushback.
 
Dan208B said:
@mikecweb Just for reference (don't really care what anyone thinks), after flying for a multitude of airlines, I only recall ever seeing one pilot wear shoulder harnesses in cruise (excluding flights with no real cruise portion like southeast Alaska 737 flights). Otherwise most go on between startup and takeoff, off between gear up and 10k, on again between 18k and final approach, and off again between rollout and gate, all of which just depend on the individual pilot. But I've never been bothered by what anyone else did. Personally my times of concern to wear it are takeoff for an RTO and landing for a sudden stoppage from a higher speed. I figure taxiing you'd have to be taxiing pretty fast to need them. And in cruise... Maybe severe turbulence but usually when turbulence has started to get that bad I'm more focused on slowing down or getting out of it. I've never seen an airline guy put them on in turbulence. I understand the thought about having them in a war bird but I've flown lots of airplanes without them and I personally just don't see it as a huge concern. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I've left them on in cruise before. I'm lazy, so unless they are bothering me I sometimes just leave them on. Not all the time. Not even 1/2 the time, but sometimes for sure.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Ugh, I wish that it wasn't on my (FAA-approved) checklist to put them on prior to pushback.
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I'm not sure I understand, I've got a couple thousand hours putting the shoulder harness on prior to spinning an engine (all GA so no pushback per se) and I've never thought twice about it...are the jets not equipped with inertial reels or something?
 
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