Scratch one F18 -Truman (no crash)

Malko

Malko

Why…..? It’s so tiring. 🤙
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I think this carrier is cursed. First they hit a cargo ship and the CO is removed. "Chowdah" former IKE CO comes in and now they lose a jet overboard. Not to mention they had a jet shot down by FF.

US Navy loses $60 million jet at sea after it fell overboard from aircraft carrier

(CNN) — A US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jet has been “lost” at sea after it fell overboard from the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier while it was
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Malko said:
Ha….was actually under tow.

“…..Was being moved/towed in hangar bay and ship took a hard turn to avoid Houthi fire. Plane and tow truck went overboard. One with minor injuries ….”
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Looks like the deck angle of an emergency maneuver could exceed 20 degrees.

 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I know from racing sailboats what the deck angle feels like. Not so much going 30 knots plus and going full Tokyo drift. I’d guess there’s some provision for it but kinda surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
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All the times id been in a full power turn it was announced ahead of time and everyone was ready. Im guessing this was bot the case today….. Talk about catching you off-guard….
 
Truman was conducting an “evasive maneuver” during the incident, a U.S. defense official confirmed to USNI News on Monday. A second defense official told USNI News the Super Hornet was being loaded onto the aircraft elevator on Truman when the strike fighter slid over the edge.
 
Malko said:
Truman was conducting an “evasive maneuver” during the incident, a U.S. defense official confirmed to USNI News on Monday. A second defense official told USNI News the Super Hornet was being loaded onto the aircraft elevator on Truman when the strike fighter slid over the edge.
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Brings up even more questions now.
 
MikeD said:
Brings up even more questions
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I’m pretty sure “evasive maneuvers” are a media-to-reader way of explaining the ship responding to an alert call and rapidly suspending whatever it was doing and reorienting to unmask their batteries on the threat axis. It shouldn’t have to deal with it, but I doubt anybody in command of a multi billion dollar asset is going to care about risk of an aircraft spilling over incoming probable explosives object. We were reminded repeatedly that since we couldn’t fold up and go in the hanger, if it came down to it they’d push us off the deck to preserve the safety of the ship.

Those tugs aren’t that big and if it was in the midst of movement from hanger to the deck, it’s not chained or anything. I’d wager money the injury was somebody leaping from something as they realized they were gonna end up swimming with whatever piece of equipment they were on.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I know from racing sailboats what the deck angle feels like. Not so much going 30 knots plus and going full Tokyo drift. I’d guess there’s some provision for it but kinda surprised this doesn’t happen more often.
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Have experienced maybe half this deck angle during really rough seas in the wardroom, and there were plates and glasses crashing into the walls everywhere. I've experienced ship's defensive drills before, but of course those are planned events and everything is generally chocked and chained down or secured somewhere. I wonder what kind of warning they had about this, I'd imagine it was pretty short fuzed (my guess), given the speed/flight profile of these weapons.
 
Lawman said:
I’m pretty sure “evasive maneuvers” are a media-to-reader way of explaining the ship responding to an alert call and rapidly suspending whatever it was doing and reorienting to unmask their batteries on the threat axis. It shouldn’t have to deal with it, but I doubt anybody in command of a multi billion dollar asset is going to care about risk of an aircraft spilling over incoming probable explosives object. We were reminded repeatedly that since we couldn’t fold up and go in the hanger, if it came down to it they’d push us off the deck to preserve the safety of the ship.

Those tugs aren’t that big and if it was in the midst of movement from hanger to the deck, it’s not chained or anything. I’d wager money the injury was somebody leaping from something as they realized they were gonna end up swimming with whatever piece of equipment they were on.
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We were never allowed to shut down during shipboard ops due to our particular birds not having rotor brakes. Which only meant we could only be transient ops.

One time during relief ops back and forth to a ship from a land base, one of our crews made a request for some food to be delivered to the helo next time it landed and was uploading cargo. Out came a box of food from the mess hall on ship. Could smell the aroma of the spaghetti and meat sauce. And after launch and during the 20 minute transit to the delivery location, the crew went to dig into the delicious spaghetti in the containers, only to find that there were no utensils enclosed.
 
Malko said:
Ha….was actually under tow.

“…..Was being moved/towed in hangar bay and ship took a hard turn to avoid Houthi fire. Plane and tow truck went overboard. One with minor injuries ….”
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Amazing what a non-peer competitor can do, etc.
 
MikeD said:
We were never allowed to shut down during shipboard ops due to our particular birds not having rotor brakes. Which only meant we could only be transient ops.

One time during relief ops back and forth to a ship from a land base, one of our crews made a request for some food to be delivered to the helo next time it landed and was uploading cargo. Out came a box of food from the mess hall on ship. Could smell the aroma of the spaghetti and meat sauce. And after launch and during the 20 minute transit to the delivery location, the crew went to dig into the delicious spaghetti in the containers, only to find that there were no utensils enclosed.
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Oh you never asked anybody not on your crew to get you food plates.

You’re gonna end up with spaghetti and soap every time doing that. “Yeah we got chicken fingers but F you guys!”
 
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