///AMG
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jeez that is terrible. If you talked about it before, I didn't catch that.
San Antonio Ground Worker Killed In Delta A319 Engine
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jeez that is terrible. If you talked about it before, I didn't catch that.
Cherokee_Cruiser
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killbilly
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The Weight Of The Unspoken Word
Talking Carefully About Suicide Is Good. Avoiding The Subject Isn’t.open.substack.com
Aviation mental health is stuck in the 1950s. I don’t know what we really expect.
Sad and very true. I'm surprised they don't recommend leeches as acceptable medication.
Skåning
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USMCmech
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The FAA wants you to self medicate with Alcohol like a real man.
killbilly
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FAA: " 'Flight' was an instructional documentary.' "
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Actually, believe it or not, leeches have a very valid medical use. They're called "medicinal leeches" and they're particularly useful for reducing post-surgery/trauma swelling and hematomas. They also "inject" a proteins that reduces coagulation, which helps wounds drain better.
I watched my SO feed hers. They kept them in a tank, and would feed them little bits of, errr, "stuff". Watching that is in my top 3 repulsive moments ever.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Is this the path that leads to contract administration?
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
No, that path leads only to despair.
Watching leeches feed is the path that leads to the bar and/or liquor cabinet.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Is this a distinction without a difference?
milleR
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True story
Modern medicine still needs leeches
Despite leeches’ historic ties to medical quackery, they do have a legitimate place in modern medicine as a sort of reverse transfusion in cases of imbalanced blood circulation. While ye olde physicians thought leeches could cure epilepsy and even large bruises, the contemporary use of leeches...
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Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Well played, sir. Well played.
killbilly
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Knew I could count on you for this.
I think of you every time I see a Captain pull out the little United sani-wipes and start wiping down all the controls. Didn't you tell us that they were basically pushing the germs around instead of actually disinfecting the controls?
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Knew I could count on you for this.
I think of you every time I see a Captain pull out the little United sani-wipes and start wiping down all the controls. Didn't you tell us that they were basically pushing the germs around instead of actually disinfecting the controls?
Kinda, sorta, but not exactly. Most of those "old style" wipes are almost pure propanol (rubbing alcohol). Everyone here knows how fast alcohol evaporates on a surface. To kill bugs dead, you need something toxic to them, obviously, but it also needs to hang around long enough to kill them.
Propanol (and it's friends methanol & ethanol) has very, very little persistence in a thin film. It practically evaporates as you are wiping it. Now if your goal is to clean inert dirt, inorganics and whatnot, then it's perfectly fine, kinda*. But if your goal is to kill bugs, then no, it does nothing.
To kill bugs (a technical term that includes bacteria, viruses, fungus and other microbial life) with propanol, you need to cut it with a lot of water. At least a 70/30 propanol/water mix by volume. And it needs to sit and soak for at least 30 seconds. That means it needs to be WET with the solution for at least that.
Some of the post-apocalypse wipes have..."stuff" (another technical term) in them. Mostly dimethyl/benzyl compounds you don't want hanging out on your skin too long (spoken from someone who used to wipe down his plane's struts with 100LL). They work better, but you still need to have persistence, so the surface needs to be wet at least SOME amount of time. You aren't going to find the hard stuff hanging around in little wipes.
You're skin works pretty darn well at keeping the bugs out. Just wash your hands, and don't touch your face. Heck, just rinsing your hands with water (no soap) eliminates 80% of bugs through mechanical action alone.
If you don't want to do that, you can make your own solution in a small squirt bottle. 70/30 by volume propanol (iso-propanol, rubbing alcohol, etc) and water. In theory you should use distilled water, but normal bottled water will do fine. WET the surface with the solution so that it REMAINS WET for at least 30 seconds, and wipe. Do that and now you've entered the realm of scientifically accurate OCD.
* If your goal is the clean crud (yet another technical term), then you need a solution that can dissolve both polar & non-polar substances (just remember "like dissolves like"). Plain alcohol works ok for some stuff, not for others. That's why we need stuff like soap.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Actually, they sucked at it, too. Try powered armor next time.
Or call the Adeptus Astartes. They mean business, brother.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
I really want SOMEONE to make that movie with that armor. But, budget, blah blah.
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
There was a rumor a remake was in the works that would be closer to the book. The problem is the book wasn't an "action" story, it was Heinlein's personal political exploration (whether you agree with it or not). Even if you carefully explain the book, people aren't going to dial into it because of any and all of multiple reasons., not the least of which all the chaff people throw up.
But, this came close.
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