I was wondering what the difference is between the Multi Commercial (initial) versus the Single Commercial (initial)?
Kinda....but more specifically if the Multi is done first, do the VFR day/night X-C and long 300 NM X-C have to be done in the twin?
Have you read the regulation concerning the Commercial in a ME airplane?
you beat me too it! The add on requirements are more frequently mis understood...
Yep.Kinda....but more specifically if the Multi is done first, do the VFR day/night X-C and long 300 NM X-C have to be done in the twin?
Yep.
Thanks....I am confused with 61.127 and 61.129....specifically the "10 hours of solo or PIC with an instructor on board" referring to the 300 NM X-C.
How can the student (who is not ME rated) log PIC time to meet the 300 NM cross country requirement?
Also can the 2 hour VFR day 100NM straight line be satisfied in the 300 NM flight..with the instructor on board?
The add on requirements are pretty clear in the FAR's....its the initial Multi that throws me for a loop.
The Long X-C and the 10 night take-off and landings at a controlled field DO NOT state multi-engine.
How can the student (who is not ME rated) log PIC time to meet the 300 NM cross country requirement?
No. The training on the two flights is different. Remember that the purpose of this is to create a reasonable substitute for the unobtainable solo time; if you combined it with regular dual, it would basically be waiving the requirement. In what is now an unofficial document, the FAA has said that the type of training provided on the "performing the duties" flight is CRM type training. When filling out the 8710, the old FAQs said put this time under PIC on the form.Also can the 2 hour VFR day 100NM straight line be satisfied in the 300 NM flight..with the instructor on board?
This is a good example of the usual misunderstanding of FAR 61.129(b)(4).Thanks....I am confused with 61.127 and 61.129....specifically the "10 hours of solo or PIC with an instructor on board" referring to the 300 NM X-C.
How can the student (who is not ME rated) log PIC time to meet the 300 NM cross country requirement?
Also can the 2 hour VFR day 100NM straight line be satisfied in the 300 NM flight..with the instructor on board?
The add on requirements are pretty clear in the FAR's....its the initial Multi that throws me for a loop.
This is a good example of the usual misunderstanding of FAR 61.129(b)(4).
It does not say "10 hours of solo or PIC with an instructor...", it says, "10 hours of solo flight time in a multiengine airplane or 10 hours of flight time in a multiengine airplane performing the duties of pilot in command with an authorized instructor..."
In that context, the 10 hours should be performed as if they were solo.
You are 'substituting' the solo hours with this clause that permits the instructor to be on board while practicing solo.
So don't even think about double-dipping and doing a dual training requirement during this 10 hours.
This is a good example of the usual misunderstanding of FAR 61.129(b)(4).
It does not say "10 hours of solo or PIC with an instructor...", it says, "10 hours of solo flight time in a multiengine airplane or 10 hours of flight time in a multiengine airplane performing the duties of pilot in command with an authorized instructor..."
In that context, the 10 hours should be performed as if they were solo.
You are 'substituting' the solo hours with this clause that permits the instructor to be on board while practicing solo.
So don't even think about double-dipping and doing a dual training requirement during this 10 hours.
So how does the MEI log this time in their logbook?