Reporting a termination & arrest-help please

A few years back I asked several HR professionals about employment history/references/validations/etc. as I had a friend who was fired from her position and was worried about what would be revealed work history wise if her prior employer were contacted. All of the HR professionals I posed this question to agreed that a company would not say that person was fired if called for an employment verification for fears of being sued. Normally, they will just state you worked for CompanyX from this date to that date, and leave it at that. If they say you were fired, that can open the doors to litigation (what doesn't these days?).

Just another opinion. Not saying one way or another what you should put on that resume, its a personal decision, and you'll have to live with whatever consequences may come.
 
Definately don't lie. The last thing you want to do is get the job on false pretense and have it come back to you later - I'm sure it will.

In regards to PRIA:

Send a letter requesting your 'complete airman file including all medical records and records of incidents, accidents and enforcement proceedings'

Include your name, address, date and place of birth, SS# and your signature. Check payable to the U.S. Treasury for $10.00.

FAA
ATTN: Aviation DATA Systems Branch
AFS-620 (PRIA)
PO BOX 25082
Oklahoma city, OK 73125

Virtually every scrap of information ever exchanged between you and the FAA will be included.

The airline MUST KEEP any information it receives confidential. They may not use the information for any purpose other than making a hiring decision. Detrimental information does not automatically prevent an airline from hiring a pilot, but if you consider legal implications of possible future incident that might involve passengers and lawsuits, unfortunately there's a lot more fish in the sea.

Source: richie lengel - everything explained for the professional pilot.
 
Oddly, enough- half an hour ago before reading this, I just sent out for my record from the airmen branch.
 
When I was a General Manager of an FBO, airlines would fax me a packet asking for employment information about the person they were hiring and also included a checkmark that said "Is this person eligible for rehire?"

That was their way of asking if you had been fired. Don't lie.
 
:yup:

Don't know what more I can add to what has already been posted, except the obvious, you may have been able to get away from omiting information a long time ago, but post 9-11 it just ain't going to happen.

What might seem like a little white lie to you, and may have slipped screening some how, you have ANY incident and it will catch up with you. You are a liabilty that the lawyers will attach to and crucify the airline you work for and your fellow pilots. Even if its not a fatal. Read NTSB AAR-95/07. American Eagle Jetstream 3201 on 13 December 1994, into RUD, NC. And that pilot flunked check rides. The airline was responsible because they knew, but the pilot would have had far more responsibilty had he hid this information.
- Didn't mean to get preachy, just this is unfortunatly what keeps me employed. -

Do the right thing, respectfully, keep flying safe. :rawk:
 
I want to thank all of you for being so receptive to my views. I respect pilots very much. You all have some of the highest preesure and most important jobs in the world. My posts on accident safety is simply of all the years as a firefighter and safety engineer and I have seen, responded, and investigated my share of plane accidents.

Its nice that you all have seemed to respect my posts. I really appreciate that. This is one of the best boards I have been involved with. If any of you need safety help or information an any crahs, please feel free to contact me.

And, I still hope that everything works out.
Fly high, fly safe, and again thank you all. :rawk:

Safetyengineer
erich@safeworkinc.com
Safety Engineer- Paramedic/Firefighter
 
Just put it on there, and if you're asked, simply say that things didn't work out.

Simple, clean, no lie.

I've got news for you. A lot of people have gotten fired. Most of them find new jobs.

Getting canned just doesn't have the stigma it once had. I mean, seriously, do you think that the 35K people who are getting pink slips from BofA will never work again?
 
Just be honest and disclose it and don't sugar coat it. They would rather hear the facts and you take responsiblity for your actions than BS. If you hide it and get hired and they find out later you most likely get the tap on the shoulder from HR and told to packup your things. Now you would have two terminations to explain.
 
All good responses everyone- thank you for the input. I will keep my track record of being honest. Looks like I will have to find employment in a different field for a bit though.
 
LaBeef said:
Hope you're being sarcastic with the comment above.. you'd have no idea how many people (pilots, recruiters, AME's etc) keep up with these forums...
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I knew an individual that put a bunch of stuff online about failing out of xjet initial and then went to another airline a week later. Someone dropped a dime... and she was gone. There are people out there that would do that to you in a heart beat.
 
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