RAH Union Issues

[falconvalley]

They are in a cool down period right? Could something like this result in the pilot group getting released for a strike?

Not released. No cool down.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Yeah, that'll show em.

I guess it is the labor relations equivalent of closing the embassies?

 

[HVYMETALDRVR]

Pretty much, we could have done this months ago... Although pulling the volunteers from crew scheduling might do more harm than good.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Pretty much, we could have done this months ago... Although pulling the volunteers from crew scheduling might do more harm than good.

"Y'all are sure good to us poor reserve folks..."

 

[SIUAv8r]

Well, due to the union's withdraw of our volunteers, our ASAP program has been terminated. Yay.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Well, due to the union's withdraw of our volunteers, our ASAP program has been terminated. Yay.

Yes, we all know that not having ASAP won't have an adverse effect on the operation at all...

 

[Nark]

What a crock.

Come here at your own peril. Not because management will screw you, (they will to save a buck) but you are also not looked out for by the union.

They clearly don't think about the future or consequences of their actions.

Like I tell potential new hires, you have to look out for yourself because no one else will here.

 

[Maurus]

Not released. No cool down.

I wasn't sure if there was a cooldown right now or not.

I was just curious if such an action by the company would be enough to show an unwillingness to negotiate and allow for a release.

ATN_Pilot would likely know I suppose.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I was just curious if such an action by the company would be enough to show an unwillingness to negotiate and allow for a release. I wasn't sure if there was a cooldown right now or not.

It certainly doesn't help their case before the Board, but it would take a lot more to get a release. The union doesn't help their cause before the board by retaliating, though.

 

[Seggy]

What a crock.

Come here at your own peril. Not because management will screw you, (they will to save a buck) but you are also not looked out for by the union.

They clearly don't think about the future or consequences of their actions.

Like I tell potential new hires, you have to look out for yourself because no one else will here.

You can alway volunteer for union work or lead an organizing drive for another union.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You can alway volunteer for union work or lead an organizing drive for another union.

Like, say, this one?

 

[Seggy]

Like, say, this one?

It's up to the pilots at RAH.

It's just annoying/hypocritical that there are those bitching about the union but are apathetic to prompting a change.

 

[amorris311]

It's up to the pilots at RAH.

It's just annoying/hypocritical that there are those bitching about the union but are apathetic to prompting a change.

I think it's funny he is on the hiring committee and tells pilots to look out for yourself. He's supposed to be promoting the place I thought? Kinda funny.

 

[DL31082]

You can alway volunteer for union work or lead an organizing drive for another union.

Volunteering is not as easy as you make it seem. I have volunteered at my current employer and all I get is we will call you if we need you.

 

[amorris311]

Volunteering is not as easy as you make it seem. I have volunteered at my current employer and all I get is we will call you if we need you.

Who is your current employer? I'd be more than happy to contact them on your behalf. PM me if you would like.

 

[Kingairer]

The ibt is doing the equivalent of a hunger strike...the problem is the wardens dont care if you die or not, in fact its cheaper if you do.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Volunteering is not as easy as you make it seem. I have volunteered at my current employer and all I get is we will call you if we need you.

You know, running for office is also volunteering. You don't need anyone's approval to put your name in the hat for an elected position.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

The ibt is doing the equivalent of a hunger strike...the problem is the wardens dont care if you die or not, in fact its cheaper if you do.

Generally, I agree. That said, I can see certain circumstances where it would be legitimate to pull out of a safety program. For example, if the data that is collected is being used to discipline pilots. But if it's just being done to say "I'm taking my ball and going home," then yeah, stupid move.

 

[HVYMETALDRVR]

If anything, ASAP costs the company money... so by withdrawing from it... were only hurting ourselves.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

If anything, ASAP costs the company money... so by withdrawing from it... were only hurting ourselves.

Eh, that depends. Companies who do military charters are required to have ASAP, FOQA, and LOSA programs in place. The DOD will pull their charters if the programs go away. And those charters are worth big money. I don't know if RAH does DOD work, though.