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Aceninja

Aceninja

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This may belong in the flight training thread, but I've got an instructor who wants me to land on the 1000ft marker everytime, (rather than aiming at the numbers and touching down shortly after). His reasoning is that the airline pilots aim just before the 1000ft markers and land on the 1000ft markers, so why not get used to it from now on. I've always been told to aim for the numbers, so my question to you professional pilots is this, do you aim so as touchdown on the 1000ft markers on a normal runway (non shortfield, cool day)? If so, why or why not?
 
Aceninja said:
This may belong in the flight training thread, but I've got an instructor who wants me to land on the 1000ft marker everytime, (rather than aiming at the numbers and touching down shortly after). His reasoning is that the airline pilots aim just before the 1000ft markers and land on the 1000ft markers, so why not get used to it from now on.
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Aim to put the wheels down exactly where you want the wheels to go down, every time. There is zero point in trying to fly a Cessna like a jet. Unless there is some good reason to land long, don't. Precise landings can and will keep you alive in single engine aircraft.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
Aim to put the wheels down exactly where you want the wheels to go down, every time. There is zero point in trying to fly a Cessna like a jet. Unless there is some good reason to land long, don't. Precise landings can and will keep you alive in single engine aircraft.
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...and multiengine airplanes too. In fact, you can shorten that to "in airplanes."

Exhibit:
 
Aceninja said:
This may belong in the flight training thread, but I've got an instructor who wants me to land on the 1000ft marker everytime, (rather than aiming at the numbers and touching down shortly after). His reasoning is that the airline pilots aim just before the 1000ft markers and land on the 1000ft markers, so why not get used to it from now on. I've always been told to aim for the numbers, so my question to you professional pilots is this, do you aim so as touchdown on the 1000ft markers on a normal runway (non shortfield, cool day)? If so, why or why not?
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What does it say in the PTS?
 
mikecweb said:
What does it say in the PTS?
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The PTS for shortfield landings says touchdown 200ft before a specified point. It does not say it has to be the numbers. My philosophy on this is that its better to have usable runway in fron of you, rather than behind you. So why land long? And why would the airlines do it?
 
Aceninja said:
The PTS for shortfield landings says touchdown 200ft before a specified point. It does not say it has to be the numbers. My philosophy on this is that its better to have usable runway in fron of you, rather than behind you. So why land long? And why would the airlines do it?
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Because my airplane is 100' long, and putting it on the numbers means I've dragged my gear through the approach lights, and if I survived the crash, my career won't.

The 1,000 foot markers are the proper aiming point in my aircraft.
 
Bottom line is you should fly the airplane you're in and don't try to make it something it's not. A 172 is a 172 and a 737 is a 737. Flying a single engine piston like it's a jet is retarded, flying a jet like it's a single engine piston will likely end badly.
 
jtrain609 said:
Because my airplane is 100' long, and putting it on the numbers means I've dragged my gear through the approach lights, and if I survived the crash, my career won't.

The 1,000 foot markers are the proper aiming point in my aircraft.
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That makes sense, thank you :)
 
z987k said:
I follow 121 carriers and the occasional learjet in to this place pretty often. Much more important to land where you want to than some marking on the runway that may or may not exist.
http://goo.gl/maps/rPRM6
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Just looked up this place. 5000' runway must make for shortfield ops for all jets. What's the biggest one you've seen land there so far?
 
Aceninja said:
Just looked up this place. 5000' runway must make for shortfield ops for all jets. What's the biggest one you've seen land there so far?
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They can get a 737 in and out of there, mostly you see the Hurcs and other props.
 
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