Questions about Mesa Airlines

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A few questions about Mesa airlines...

I've read a few posts on this site about Mesa. Are there any Mesa pilots on this site or people who've talked to them able to answer a few questions - am wondering about days off for a typical new hire, 1 year, 2 year f/o? When are the CRJ900s arriving at JFK and that base being opened (yes, they're coming to JFK and flying as Delta Connection)?

Also, I am surprised by the amount of negative comments for Mesa - is this reality there? Mesa is an ALPA carrier - does this help? What is it like to fly for them?

Thanks for any responses.
 
Hang on... I'm starting some popcorn for this one.

I don't work there but know plenty of people that do. Yes, it is really that bad. ALPA is only as strong as the local pilot group so that plays no roll in anything. Also, if management feels like they can walk all over the CBA and get away with it, they will. No idea about the Delta flying out of JFK. As far as I knew all the Delta flying was on the Freedom certificate and the 900s are on the Mesa certificate. Not sure how that would work.
 
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I've got to take an Orenstien now...
 
sorry to stir things up...

I hope the Mesa airlines thread isn't already beat to death... sorry guys/gals, just looking for some up-to-date answers from people in the know.
 
Suffice to say STAY AWAY FROM MESA!

Your career and health will thank you later in life.

I have enough time to apply to any regional I want (1000/75), but I steadfastly refuse to even entertain the notion of Mesa. That's because of what I've read here.

The search function should provide for some highly entertaining bedtime reading on this subject.
 
When you look at an airline that is losing pilots left and right, you have to ask why and where are they going? Mesa's losing even more a month than Pinnacle is, a majority of those are FOs. That's a warning flag right there that those people would rather start over at the bottom of another seniority list than tough it out, especially since Mesa has bases all over the US.
 
Take the job at Mesa, put your time in, get your quick upgrade and move on to something better. That's what Mesa and all commuters are meant to be.
 
Even if your goal is get in and get out, you can make more $ with a better schedule elsewhere. All while being comfortable enough to stay for a while if the next down cycle happens while you work there.

Imagine going to the airport to start a trip and sitting there all day while your flights get canceled one by one due to wx. At Mesa, you just made exactly $0.
 
CTFlyer said:
A few questions about Mesa airlines...

I've read a few posts on this site about Mesa. Are there any Mesa pilots on this site or people who've talked to them able to answer a few questions - am wondering about days off for a typical new hire, 1 year, 2 year f/o? When are the CRJ900s arriving at JFK and that base being opened (yes, they're coming to JFK and flying as Delta Connection)?

Also, I am surprised by the amount of negative comments for Mesa - is this reality there? Mesa is an ALPA carrier - does this help? What is it like to fly for them?

Thanks for any responses.
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Do I ummmmmm know you?
 
H46Bubba said:
They should have put "Delta Connection" carrier. Otherwise no one knows who the #### Mesa or Freedom is!:rolleyes:
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Supposedly the Freedom name is pretty well known among travelers there, but I personally have no idea how accurate that is. But, I agree that should have been on there. Seems kind odd that it isn't!
 
CTFlyer said:
A few questions about Mesa airlines...

I've read a few posts on this site about Mesa. Are there any Mesa pilots on this site or people who've talked to them able to answer a few questions - am wondering about days off for a typical new hire, 1 year, 2 year f/o? When are the CRJ900s arriving at JFK and that base being opened (yes, they're coming to JFK and flying as Delta Connection)?

Also, I am surprised by the amount of negative comments for Mesa - is this reality there? Mesa is an ALPA carrier - does this help? What is it like to fly for them?

Thanks for any responses.
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Typical schedule 6-on 2-off. As staffing gets more critical, hardlines are getting converted into mixed lines with 8 days off and reserve days added to your normal flying. I'm going into year 3, and I compared my schedule with two others who have been at Mesa for 6 years and 8 years and we're all holding 8 days off. Movement up the seniority list is quick though, 1800 to 900 in 2 years.

The 900s belong to Delta, Freedom provides the crews. Focus is on staffing UAX, so you are probably looking at ORD/IAD.

If you're looking to stay in the Northeast, there are much better places to be.

You're always calling payroll every month to get the money you were shorted in your paycheck. It gets old, and you wonder why it's so hard to get paid correctly.

If you're coming for the quick upgrade - you can upgrade quickly in 4 years. and finally get into training at year 5 when you're released from holdback.
 
woodreau said:
Typical schedule 6-on 2-off. As staffing gets more critical, hardlines are getting converted into mixed lines with 8 days off and reserve days added to your normal flying. I'm going into year 3, and I compared my schedule with two others who have been at Mesa for 6 years and 8 years and we're all holding 8 days off.
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My God, why do people go there? To the original poster, his statement alone should be enough for you to stay away, even if you did not search anything else on this entire board.
Hmmm...billboards across the country venting about the rotten work rules, pilots leaving left and right for a lateral move, only 8 DAYS off/month, a mgmt. group that could care less about the CBA, etc, etc, etc.....but "what is it really like there?" This site is not about bashing a company just for the hell of it, it's about letting you know the truth. If you choose to not believe what countless pilots are telling you (Brand X does not count, since his only experience is Flight Sim, either that or Brand X is the lonely wife/girlfriend of a pilot pretending to be one)...be forewarned. Do not go to Mesa, you can pretty much go to any regional right now.
 
Brand X said:
Take the job at Mesa, put your time in, get your quick upgrade and move on to something better. That's what Mesa and all commuters are meant to be.
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You can use this same logic towards Skybus and Virgin America et al.The same logic could be used for any flying job, but if everyone does that it'll just make the entire industry's pay scale get worse.
 
Baradium said:
You can use this same logic towards Skybus and Virgin America et al.The same logic could be used for any flying job, but if everyone does that it'll just make the entire industry's pay scale get worse.
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Agreed. Even if you are just using it as a stepping stone, no one knows that but you. The only thing you're showing is that you're willing to work for crappy work rules and low pay. Then management says to themselves, "no matter how low pay is there are still people willing to work for it, so why increase pay?"

By taking the job at MESA you're hurting all of us in the long run.
 
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