Question for you Airline Guys

bc2209

bc2209

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Say you live in Texas and commute to your base in Chicago. You commute in the night before, stay at your crash pad, and then start your 3 day trip tomorrow.

Your first day you fly a few places and then your last leg of the day puts you back in base in Chicago.

Does the airline pay for your hotel in base back in Chicago or do you have to go back to your crash pad or home if you live in base?
 
If a trip ends in base then you're on your own. Then it is essentially just 2 trips at that point. Happens all the time on reserve.
 
What if the trip is still on day one however you end up back in base at the end of day 1? Do you still have to spend your own money even though you are still on your 3 day trip?

I get the part about the end of trip and returning to your base but what if you still have two more days to go?
 
bc2209 said:
What if the trip is still on day one however you end up back in base at the end of day 1? Do you still have to spend your own money even though you are still on your 3 day trip?

I get the part about the end of trip and returning to your base but what if you still have two more days to go?
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Really depends on the CBA. Are you working for an airline currently, or just considering it?
 
dasleben said:
Really depends on the CBA. Are you working for an airline currently, or just considering it?
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Nope. Long time off from that but it's always something I've wondered about. Thought I'd ask some of you guys.

Honestly I thought that if you were on a trip, regardless of where you were, base or not, they would have to put you up in a hotel.
 
At XJT I think I remember them saying call back after 11pm to see if their were any of their blocked rooms where someone was a no show and you could have the room. It sucks if your trip ends anytime before 2200. I usually just gave up and went to the good ole Quality Inn :D
 
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Lodging in domicile clauses vary from airline to airline and all what they cover. Some will cover mid trip overnights in base, some won't. Some will cover lodging for unscheduled (MX or weather) overnights in base. Some will cover hotels during training events (if your event is in your base) and some won't.
 
My company (Beachball International Airways) covers in-domicile lodging at all times, though it may be taxed as income depending on the situation.
 
What do you mean by "you Airline Guys?"

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@bc2209 , if it's on the same pairing, then yes you would have a hotel for sure. If you're in between trips in base, it generally depends on how much time there is in between rest periods if they'll provide you a hotel or not.
 
motormadness24 said:
@bc2209 , if it's on the same pairing, then yes you would have a hotel for sure. If you're in between trips in base, it generally depends on how much time there is in between rest periods if they'll provide you a hotel or not.
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Are there airlines that will have a pairing that overnights in base?

At my former airline you were on your own in your base, maintenance and weather cancellations included. "A friend" got into it once with crew scheduling and a manager when they asked the crew to extend their day past what was obligated, ferry a plane to their base, and thus get stuck with a hotel bill.
 
bc2209 said:
Does the airline pay for your hotel in base back in Chicago or do you have to go back to your crash pad or home if you live in base?
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Per the XJT CRJ contract, the company will provide a hotel for an unscheduled overnight in base of less than 12hrs.

Is that the situation you're describing?
 
Two airlines I've worked for will pay for a hotel in base on an unscheduled overnight only if it less than 10 hours
 
Typically, airlines won't build pairings that overnight in your domicile. You may overnight in another domicile, but not typically you're own. If the trip returns to your base, then it's just a day trip. If it's a multi-day trip, then you'd typically overnight in an outstation. Now, if something happens (wx, mx, cancellations, duty time issues) and you end up overnight in base, the company should take care of you if you're on a pairing. It was that way at my last company and is that way at my current company. Even on the first day, as long as you're checked in, the company is responsible for you.

My last company didn't pick up hotels for training in base. This was particularly not fun for the 3 days of ground school, which was held in base or for recurrent when I was IAH-based or upgrade training (since I was IAH-based and wasn't in my new base until I completed said training) My current company provides a hotel for training, if you live more than 50 miles away from the training center. It's a pretty nice provision.
 
Old Dominion Flyer said:
Per the XJT CRJ contract, the company will provide a hotel for an unscheduled overnight in base of less than 12hrs.

Is that the situation you're describing?
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I think he's just talking about outside the pairing. Hey so that's another contract item you could have improved...I think the ERJ XJT contract provides for all hotels no matter what once inside the pairing.
 
The regional airline I worked at does not provide a hotel room in the event of an unscheduled overnight in your own domicile. There are no scheduled overnights back at your domicile, the trip is over and so it's up to you for lodging.

There is a contract provision for the company to provide a room under certain circumstances during an un scheduled overnight in domicile but it's poorly written and open to interpretation and leads to a frustrating argument with crew scheduling and you end up finding your own room anyway.

So the takeaway for me commuting to Chicago from Texas is to never bid for trips that did Chicago out and backs. Instead I bid for trips that leave Chicago like to LA or NY or DC/STL or IAH/LAX on leg 1 never to come back until the last leg on day 4. That way the hotel room was never an issue.
 
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