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"On the 45 for 19" means nothing except the aircraft is inbound. "2 miles out on the 45 for 19" means much more, and now I have a place to look.
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While I'll give you that saying your on the 45 doesnt help tell me how far out your on the 45 but then again you shouldnt be calling out the 45 unless your relatively close to the airport anyways.. as it is if you dont know where the 45 is for 19 maybe you should look at your AFD before-hand so you know where the 45 is so you can look in that direction.
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"Over the city hall inbound" means nothing. What if I'm not a local? How the hell do I know where city hall is? Use distances and directions. "4 miles northwest" is much more effective.
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Thats why they make terminal charts.. most often they are charted visual checkpoints noted by a FLAG and the name of the checkpoint ie: city hall, etc. Maybe you should take a closer look at your map, especially if your unfamilar with the area!.
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"Turning downwind" when entering also means little. There's two different places where you can be "turning downwind" (x-wind, and midfield). "Midfield, turning downwind" now gives me a place to look for you.
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First off if they are turning downwind from x-wind you should read your AFD so you roughly know where he is and if they entered midfield for the downwind then they obviously didnt enter on the 45 correctly, either way again if you dont know which side the pattern he is on then maybe you should read your AFD (should state if left or right traffic is standard for airport) and you should have a idea where the 45 is in relation to the pattern being used. However if you are going to do something out of the ordinary like entering midfield, I agree you should state so.
Personally I think its more important that pilots add which traffic they are flying ie: "Turning downwind, left traffic 19R" to the radio call so I know which direction everyone is flying before I get there after all not all people follow proper airport patterns at uncontrolled airports, go figure...
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Why do people insist on giving their full callsign in the pattern? Too much info. Just give type of a/c and last three digits of tail number. Again, prevents congestion.
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I agree you can shorten the callsign there is no need to repeat the whole thing over and over.
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Same with the airport name at the end of transmissions. I know people will disagree with me on this one, but I really don't think its necessary to repeat the airport name unless theres a real danger of confusion of airports (which there usually is not).
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Sorry Im going to have to agree with everyone else on this one.. its proper procedure to repeat the airport again in case someone only caught half the transmission dont want to scare someone on final
Plus its recommened in the AIM which you should take seriously.
Ryan