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i see that you got a 100 viper. are you a veteran? i am and i was wondering if my 5 points got added to my test score?
 
n1ck88 said:
i see that you got a 100 viper. are you a veteran? i am and i was wondering if my 5 points got added to my test score?
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The 5 points aren't added to your AT-SAT score... Hopefully someone can explain it better, but my understanding is that everyone's qualifications are converted into some point system and your 5 points are added to that.
 
I am a vet yes. But i believe Chi Chi is correct. I dont think it is added to our score but give us a boost in the selection process somehow. Though I could certainly be wrong. Either way I will take it!
 
Vet preference points are considered when the applications are sent to the panels. Those with points are placed ahead of those without.
 
nathanw said:
Vet preference points are considered when the applications are sent to the panels. Those with points are placed ahead of those without.
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Kind of, I think. The way you explained it every application with vet pref would be placed ahead of every applicatin without.

I think it works on a value based system. Say you are a vet, and your total application is scored a "90". Say your friend isn't a vet, and his is scored a "97". I think they add 5 points to the 90, making it a 95. The non vet still has 2 more points, and gets hired over the non vet.

The point I'm trying to make is that there could be non vets hired ahead of vets, if their application in general is more qualified after preference points are applied.

I'm not certain, this is just a hunch I have as to how it works (none of us really know)
 
hudson26 said:
Kind of, I think. The way you explained it every application with vet pref would be placed ahead of every applicatin without.

I think it works on a value based system. Say you are a vet, and your total application is scored a "90". Say your friend isn't a vet, and his is scored a "97". I think they add 5 points to the 90, making it a 95. The non vet still has 2 more points, and gets hired over the non vet.

The point I'm trying to make is that there could be non vets hired ahead of vets, if their application in general is more qualified after preference points are applied.

I'm not certain, this is just a hunch I have as to how it works (none of us really know)
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You are indeed correct. I looked up the rules on the OPM website. They rate your total application on a scale of 0-100 and then add vet pref points. So a disabled vet could get a total of 110 points.
 
hudson26 said:
Kind of, I think. The way you explained it every application with vet pref would be placed ahead of every applicatin without.

I think it works on a value based system. Say you are a vet, and your total application is scored a "90". Say your friend isn't a vet, and his is scored a "97". I think they add 5 points to the 90, making it a 95. The non vet still has 2 more points, and gets hired over the non vet.

The point I'm trying to make is that there could be non vets hired ahead of vets, if their application in general is more qualified after preference points are applied.

I'm not certain, this is just a hunch I have as to how it works (none of us really know)
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That's basically how I understood it to be too. A lot of people seem to forget that VRA != vet. I think the only way vets are guaranteed to be considered over OTS applicants (and CTI for that matter) would be those who can apply to VRA announcements. Obviously the 5 or 10 point preference gives vets a bit of an edge on an OTS application, but I'm pretty sure a non vet with a higher overall application score is still considered first.

This is just how I think it works too, so don't freak out on me if I'm wrong :panic:

Edit: nathanw has it covered :)
 
Hi Everyone!

I'm a newbie on the site and to ATC in general. I applied to pubnat 4 and took my ATSAT last month, passing with a "well qualified" score!

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi. My dad is a retired ATC from Washington Center in Leesburg, VA and he recently went back to work, this time at the academy in OKC. He found out that in January, names will be pulled from pubnat 3, and then in April names from pubnat 4 will be pulled. in between now and then we will be contacted (most likely via email) and asked to specify our top 2 choices of location. we should also hear between now and then about our PEPC.

Sorry if some of that was common knowledge already, I just thought I'd share what I heard for anyone who didn't know (like me!).

Where are all of your top preferences to work? Anyone care to share horror stories of where NOT to put in for?

--Amy
 
photolove said:
Hi Everyone!

I'm a newbie on the site and to ATC in general. I applied to pubnat 4 and took my ATSAT last month, passing with a "well qualified" score!

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi. My dad is a retired ATC from Washington Center in Leesburg, VA and he recently went back to work, this time at the academy in OKC. He found out that in January, names will be pulled from pubnat 3, and then in April names from pubnat 4 will be pulled. in between now and then we will be contacted (most likely via email) and asked to specify our top 2 choices of location. we should also hear between now and then about our PEPC.

Sorry if some of that was common knowledge already, I just thought I'd share what I heard for anyone who didn't know (like me!).

Where are all of your top preferences to work? Anyone care to share horror stories of where NOT to put in for?

--Amy
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Welcome to the site and congrats on the AT-SAT score :rawk:

I really hope your dad was given wrong information about PUBNAT4 having to wait until April :banghead:
 
I hope so too! But I'm losing hope because I called one of the centers I am interested in working at, and they said the same thing. :(

Maybe there's still a chance they will combine pubnat 3 and 4? I didn't even know they did that sort of thing.

Btw, I am horrified about not passing the background check. My credit is pretty crummy because all of last year I lived in an expensive city with a job that definitely did not pay me enough. Luckily, my financial situation has changed since then and I am kicking it into high gear to pay off debts, but I'm nervous it will all hurt my clearance. Here's hoping I make it...
 
photolove said:
Btw, I am horrified about not passing the background check. My credit is pretty crummy because all of last year I lived in an expensive city with a job that definitely did not pay me enough. Luckily, my financial situation has changed since then and I am kicking it into high gear to pay off debts, but I'm nervous it will all hurt my clearance. Here's hoping I make it...
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I have a lot of debt... 80k+ student loans, 30k car loan, credit cards, etc etc. I've never been late on anything. I think they are just looking for responsible payment history? If you had a ton of debt and were in default on student loan payments or something like that, I think it would be more of a problem.

I go to PEPC in a little over 2 weeks, so I will let you know how things turn out.
 
St. Louis and Nashville for me. STL because my wife is from there and wants to go to grad school there; BNA because it's my hometown, and I know three tower guys there. Pulling for STL, though, because as anyone here knows -- happy wife, happy life. :D
 
I'm shooting to stay close to home, hopefully either at BWI or Reagan in DC.
Oddly enough, I haven't seen a single person express desire to go to either of these locations, or mention that they received them.
I'm starting to wonder if my top two choices aren't hiring as many people.
Last thing I want is to get stuck at Dulles, that commute is horrible.:panic:
 
I'm think California first, because I live here, and maybe Washington after that. I really love it here in CA and am really hoping that I get Oakland Center of a towere around the SF Bay Area. It's expensive as hell, but like I said, it's home.
 
SnareMV17 said:
I'm think California first, because I live here, and maybe Washington after that. I really love it here in CA and am really hoping that I get Oakland Center of a towere around the SF Bay Area. It's expensive as hell, but like I said, it's home.
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Is state tax in Cali really 9.3%??!! That's insane! Is there sales tax too? How much is sales tax?
 
My top choice is Seattle. Preferably center or tracon, but anything will do. I considered CA too, but after having lived in Los Angeles for most of last year, I think the Pacific Northwest is more my speed. :) But LA was great!
 
Sales tax is outrageous too. I think in Los Angeles sales tax is over 9%...but I could be mistaken.

I know there are several places where sales tax is over 8%.

Our property taxes are pretty high too. Somewhere around 1.25% in most places, which is a lot of money considering our property values.
 
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