PSA v Republic

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pilotdad

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Can anyone give me some wise words about whether a position at PSA or Republic is better than the other or not?

Thanks
 
They are almost completely different companies in terms of what they offer. PSA has a flow that really shouldn't factor into your decision because you are so far away from even worrying about it. Republic has higher pay. PSA has Charlotte and it is one of the easiest one-leg commutes out of anywhere in the south. That being said, it is going to take you a long while before you can hold it. CVG and DAY are junior at PSA. Republic has a lot of different base options, however they have historically opened and closed bases with some frequency. Republic is in bankruptcy so that is a helluva wild card to consider. PSA has stagnated and our ability to grow any further is in serious doubt unless our parent company, AAG, makes some drastic improvements in pay and contract. It's kind of a toss up. Pick the one that provides the easiest commute and/or no commute for you. Personally, I wouldn't pick either right now.

It's a more difficult decision now than it was for me a couple of years ago. There are several regionals offering good pay and good quality of life. And there is also a lot of uncertainty and turmoil ahead in the next year or two. Despite oil being cheap, the lack of pilots and the inevitable rise of crude will be the swan song of the 50 seaters. They have had a temporary reprieve brought on by low gas prices. There will likely be more reshuffling of aircraft and bases ahead and also mergers are likely as the staffing crisis deepens at the regional level.
 
chrisreedrules said:
They are almost completely different companies in terms of what they offer. PSA has a flow that really shouldn't factor into your decision because you are so far away from even worrying about it. Republic has higher pay. PSA has Charlotte and it is one of the easiest one-leg commutes out of anywhere in the south. That being said, it is going to take you a long while before you can hold it. CVG and DAY are junior at PSA. Republic has a lot of different base options, however they have historically opened and closed bases with some frequency. Republic is in bankruptcy so that is a helluva wild card to consider. PSA has stagnated and our ability to grow any further is in serious doubt unless our parent company, AAG, makes some drastic improvements in pay and contract. It's kind of a toss up. Pick the one that provides the easiest commute and/or no commute for you. Personally, I wouldn't pick either right now.

It's a more difficult decision now than it was for me a couple of years ago. There are several regionals offering good pay and good quality of life. And there is also a lot of uncertainty and turmoil ahead in the next year or two. Despite oil being cheap, the lack of pilots and the inevitable rise of crude will be the swan song of the 50 seaters. They have had a temporary reprieve brought on by low gas prices. There will likely be more reshuffling of aircraft and bases ahead and also mergers are likely as the staffing crisis deepens at the regional level.
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Don't forget (soon to be) ORD.....
I sure as hell haven't heard the end of it, end from the safety of headphones....
(Sigh)
 
How about the flip side....if you were just going to be in the training department (corporate) So you either live in Indie or Dayton? Any thoughts on Republic or Dayton from the training department/corporate side?

Does anyone know anything about Republics ground instructors? Are they typed? Sent through training in the sim? Or just teaching indoc/systems?

Thanks a million!
 
pilotdad said:
How about the flip side....if you were just going to be in the training department (corporate) So you either live in Indie or Dayton? Any thoughts on Republic or Dayton from the training department/corporate side?

Does anyone know anything about Republics ground instructors? Are they typed? Sent through training in the sim? Or just teaching indoc/systems?

Thanks a million!
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Republics ground instructors for initial training is flight safety instructors for the aircraft. My indoc training was done by a ramper who had a commercial pilot license. That's it. Recurrent ground instructors are line pilots mostly captains.
 
dbrault17 said:
Republics ground instructors for initial training is flight safety instructors for the aircraft. My indoc training was done by a ramper who had a commercial pilot license. That's it. Recurrent ground instructors are line pilots mostly captains.
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So Flight Safety does the Systems Ground too?
 
Burrito said:
Don't forget (soon to be) ORD.....
I sure as hell haven't heard the end of it, end from the safety of headphones....
(Sigh)
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The official word is that ORD is in fact our next base, but that it hinges on AAG transferring the remaining CRJ700s from Envoy. Which I don't personally think will happen unless we kiss our 200s bye bye. And they have already said they want PSA to keep operating the 200 so... Basically ORD is still up in the air.
 
Don't come to PSA, our seniority list has been stuck at 1100 for 6 months now with no growth in sight. I'd imagine there won't be any as they still refuse to do anything to attract pilots. I've been on mil leave since January and hoped the lines would improve. I just looked at July's bid pack and it is still the same garbage.

Dayton is an ok enough smallish midsized midwestern town. I would much rather live in Indianapolis. Some people at PSA that work in Dayton commute up from the Northern Cinci burbs just for livability. Dayton is kinda a trash heap, but it is getting somewhat better, much like every city in the country as they realize they now need to compete globally.
 
Soku39 said:
Don't come to PSA, our seniority list has been stuck at 1100 for 6 months now with no growth in sight. I'd imagine there won't be any as they still refuse to do anything to attract pilots. I've been on mil leave since January and hoped the lines would improve. I just looked at July's bid pack and it is still the same garbage.

Dayton is an ok enough smallish midsized midwestern town. I would much rather live in Indianapolis. Some people at PSA that work in Dayton commute up from the Northern Cinci burbs just for livability. Dayton is kinda a trash heap, but it is getting somewhat better, much like every city in the country as they realize they now need to compete globally.
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My goodness the commuter guys today are spoiled
 
ALL new hires at PSA are getting the $15,000 sign on bonus now (not just the guys with prior 121 time). Also, employees are getting $5000 for referral bonuses.
 
Soku39 said:
:stir:

Regionals are desperate and dudes biting that bullet to 1500 have choices. I thought this is what we were fighting for, guess that makes us spoiled. ; )
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You complained about a stagnant seniority list...over a six month time frame... no mention of money anywhere in your post.

Guys whose only frame of reference is good times will have a serious come to Jesus moment when stuff actually goes sideways...
 
So I'll get in on that.
If you're interested in PSA, help a fellow JC'er out and let's discuss a referral. You'll get a bonus; I'll get a smaller bonus, and movement is enhanced.

I don't hate my job. I'm in the mid-thirties in the TYS seniority list of 52 Round 1 lines, and I was just awarded my #1 line pick for July. Life is pretty good.
 
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