"Power tie" or no?

At my Hawaiian interview I wore a tie with lots of palm trees embroidered. It looked a little "different" than your typical interview tie, but it showed the aloha spirit!
 
My interview at Southernjets, they told me to feel free to take off the coat, loosen my tie and relax.

So I did.
ATN_Pilot tells a story about the old days at ExpressJet where one of the interviewers would invite guys to take their jackets off but then it was a trap, they would not get hired if they did that.
 
ATN_Pilot tells a story about the old days at ExpressJet where one of the interviewers would invite guys to take their jackets off but then it was a trap, they would not get hired if they did that.
Well its a good thing he bought his job then.

My last interview I wore a black suit, a black tie and black shoes. I got the job. It sucked. If an airline is hiring, you don't drool on yourself and can keep the dirty side down in the sim (if applicable) you'll probably get hired. Then again, I can write a book, fill it full of airline cliches promising you the tips and secrets of getting hired and charge you $39.99 if you'd prefer.
 
ATN_Pilot tells a story about the old days at ExpressJet where one of the interviewers would invite guys to take their jackets off but then it was a trap, they would not get hired if they did that.

They also kicked you out the door if you used a vertical staple instead of a horizontal staple in the top left hand corner of your paperwork. Probably not the best example of an HR department.
 
They also kicked you out the door if you used a vertical staple instead of a horizontal staple in the top left hand corner of your paperwork. Probably not the best example of an HR department.
Sometimes you have to wonder what is wrong with people.
 
What kind of behaviorally defective person uses a vertical staple though?!? Paging sekuritay.


:sarcasm:
 
I would get in trouble in school by a certain science teacher for not stapling at a 45 degree angle. That is how the pages fold over, thus increasing surface area and decreasing the chance for tearing while flipping through.

So from the scientific side of things, vertical and horizontal are both wrong.
 
ATN_Pilot tells a story about the old days at ExpressJet where one of the interviewers would invite guys to take their jackets off but then it was a trap, they would not get hired if they did that.

Yep, true story. Guy's name was John Dresser. No idea whatever happened to him, but he was legendary for being a jerk back around the 2000 timeframe.

Still, even though jerks like him are rare, I still tell everyone that the best thing to do is stick to the traditional pilot interview costume. While there's a 90% chance that the guy interviewing you for your dream job doesn't care whether your suit is navy blue or light gray, do you really want to lose your dream job just because you hit the 10% chance that the guy interviewing you is the rare one that wants you to adhere to the traditional costume? Don't be an idiot. Buy the navy blue suit, starch the white shirt, and put on a red tie with a windsor knot. Keep it conservative, keep it traditional. There's absolutely no reason to do anything differently. A navy blue suit doesn't cost any more than any other color of suit.
 
Yep, true story. Guy's name was John Dresser. No idea whatever happened to him, but he was legendary for being a jerk back around the 2000 timeframe.

Still, even though jerks like him are rare, I still tell everyone that the best thing to do is stick to the traditional pilot interview costume. While there's a 90% chance that the guy interviewing you for your dream job doesn't care whether your suit is navy blue or light gray, do you really want to lose your dream job just because you hit the 10% chance that the guy interviewing you is the rare one that wants you to adhere to the traditional costume? Don't be an idiot. Buy the navy blue suit, starch the white shirt, and put on a red tie with a windsor knot. Keep it conservative, keep it traditional. There's absolutely no reason to do anything differently. A navy blue suit doesn't cost any more than any other color of suit.

What if you have a 10% chance that the guy interviewing you doesn't want to see your version of the traditional interview suit?
 
Not what I said. Your reading comprehension is usually far better. I said that it typically won't be a problem, but on a rare occasion it is. With that in mind, why take the risk?

I can read just fine, I'm making fun of you because I think you're wrong. See my earlier post about never listening to pilots about how to dress professionally, we have no idea how to do it.

EDIT: I should also add, this is THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT you're railing against in the ILS timing thread.

"If you don't do X when you're doing Y, there is a small chance you will DIE, so why WOULDN'T you do it?"

Pilots think in a binary fashion; right/wrong, yes/no, etc. We want to point to something and say "THIS" is what is wrong." If you don't wear THIS suit, it's why you didn't get the interview. If you didn't time on the ILS, THIS is why you crashed the plane into a mountain. The argument doesn't hold water in either argument, but we want to find reasons for failure.

Just like in the case of timing on the ILS, if you don't do it, you're not going to crash. We all know yo're not going to crash, but somebody wants to argue against it. If you wear "the wrong suit," but still looked professional, nailed the sim and were as professional as possible and you didn't get the job, it's not because of the suit; it's because they didn't like you.
 
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