PNCL Files Chapter 11

this. As soon as the stabs park, Colgan gets sold.

What is a company with unprofitable CPA and no assets except for some financed airplanes (and parts) and is being sued for a major accident worth on the open market? But they'll throw in a bunch of union CBAs. Only pinnacle would pick up a deal like that.
 
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For starters, I'd like "Run the APU as much as possible". For my entree, I'll take flying 4,000' below flight plan with a possible divert. Finish it up with a nice plate of "How many writeups can I put in the can"
 
Sounds like a great way to get fired.

Agreed. Sticking it to the company is only going to hurt those that remain. So in reality, you are screwing your buddy. In talking with a few management pilots on the Colgan side that will also be losing their jobs, the company has allready identified several people to serve as "disciplinary managers" to back up the RCP's and inflight managers for behavior like this. As a pilot, none of us feel the need to help the company right now, and rightly so. But as a professional pilot, we still have an obligation to conduct the flight safely and uphold our conduct to the profession. Think about your careers, families and your coworkers. Watch out for them and point them in the right direction if needed. We have HIMS, Prostans and all kinds of help available if needed. Fly the FOM and the contract. Nothing more and nothing less is all anyone on the MEC will ask of you at this point.
 
For starters, I'd like "Run the APU as much as possible". For my entree, I'll take flying 4,000' below flight plan with a possible divert. Finish it up with a nice plate of "How many writeups can I put in the can"
Sounds like a great way to get fired.

The company has never been critical of our APU usage, to be firing guys for running the APU is pretty tough to do in the real world. There is little management or guidance in our APU usage, and snapping the other way in such a drastic manner would be transparent and draconian.

As for flying below the flight plan altitude, it is done often at this company to find a smooth ride. Today's rides through the ohio valley were rough 350 and above, had been that way, dispatch gave us 370. So that happens. Our dispatchers can't even bother to file flights that are scheduled, the schedulers call 4 times telling you the wrong thing because they are illiterate and crewweb isn't in picture form, and the mx guys are painful stupid missing the deferals that go hand in hand with the item they are differing. Pinnacle mgmt would be wise to shut their damn mouths, we aren't used to dealing with this much stupidity, and it happened the moment Eagan was shut down. I'm embarrassed any pilot has to work with this level of incompetence at the SOC level. Take your time out there, it's become brutal in the last month since it is obvious we are on our own out there.

How many writeups do fit in the can? Let me tell you something. It's obvious people are going to be half in and half out. If they just want to get to the long overnight and not give a crap about writing anything up and you have the patience and professionalism to write something up then do so. You could have filled the can nearly any day at Colgan because no one cared and thusly, no one wrote anything up. Peoples "give a crap tank" are on empty. Don't feel bad about writing multiple items up because everyone else has given up. Write them up.
 
The company has never been critical of our APU usage, to be firing guys for running the APU is pretty tough to do in the real world. There is little management or guidance in our APU usage, and snapping the other way in such a drastic manner would be transparent and draconian.

As far as the APU, I generally agree. You can always come up with good reasons to run the APU. The back of the airplane was hot, airflow from the ground air isn't enough, etc. It's the other things that will get you fired, and not only will you get fired, you'll probably lose your arbitration hearing:

As for flying below the flight plan altitude, it is done often at this company to find a smooth ride. Today's rides through the ohio valley were rough 350 and above, had been that way, dispatch gave us 370. So that happens.

The company can easily track this data. They know what the filed flight plan altitudes were for your flights in the past, they have the flight tracking data to compare your actual cruise altitudes, and they can compare them to future flights. If 20% of your flights in the past 12 months were flown at an altitude different than your flight planned altitude, but suddenly the next month jumps to 80%, then you're going to get fired, and you're not going to get your job back. Statistical analysis related to alleged illegal job actions weighs quite heavily with arbitrators.

How many writeups do fit in the can? Let me tell you something. It's obvious people are going to be half in and half out. If they just want to get to the long overnight and not give a crap about writing anything up and you have the patience and professionalism to write something up then do so. You could have filled the can nearly any day at Colgan because no one cared and thusly, no one wrote anything up. Peoples "give a crap tank" are on empty. Don't feel bad about writing multiple items up because everyone else has given up. Write them up.

Changing the rate at which you write up airplanes will get you fired, and again, you probably won't get your job back. If you do, it will be from a whistleblower complaint, not likely from an arbitration, and it will take years of waiting for the ruling from OSHA. The company tracks write-ups not only by airplane number, but by employee number. If employee number 12345 historically writes up 5 items per 100 flights, but next month that number jumps to 20 items per 100 flights, then employee number 12345 is probably going to be terminated.

Don't be stupid, guys. Illegal job actions are a bad idea. They won't improve your situation in bankruptcy (or traditional contract negotiations), and they will likely cost you your job, possibly your career.
 
The company can easily track this data. They know what the filed flight plan altitudes were for your flights in the past, they have the flight tracking data to compare your actual cruise altitudes, and they can compare them to future flights. If 20% of your flights in the past 12 months were flown at an altitude different than your flight planned altitude, but suddenly the next month jumps to 80%, then you're going to get fired, and you're not going to get your job back. Statistical analysis related to alleged illegal job actions weighs quite heavily with arbitrators.

I always have and will continue to deviate from filed flight plan altitude in search of a smooth ride... and more often than not the filed altitude is more detrimental to the flight because of winds aloft that the dispatcher didn't account for. Anyone who thinks I am going to fly in continuous light/moderate simply because thats whats filed when there is smooth air available is smoking crack/meth.
All I have to say is operate safely... if this bankruptcy is weighing on your mind then take your time and slow down... I will not do anything out of the ordinary like call out sick when I am not but I will not operate an aircraft in an unsafe manner just to keep up with average leg times.
 
Continuing the same behavior you have always had is not a problem. It's when you change behavior and start doing things that you haven't always done that falls into the category of illegal job actions. It's all about statistical analysis.
 
The company tracks write-ups not only by airplane number, but by employee number. If employee number 12345 historically writes up 5 items per 100 flights, but next month that number jumps to 20 items per 100 flights, then employee number 12345 is probably going to be terminated.

Maybe at some places. Until last month we didn't even put our name or employee number in the can when we wrote something up so unless they were going and correlating flight numbers and dates with names (which wouldn't work because a lot of times the MX issue comes in with the previous crew and the accepting crew agrees to write it up so the other crew can go to the hotel/home) there would be no way of doing that.
 
Changing the rate at which you write up airplanes will get you fired, and again, you probably won't get your job back. If you do, it will be from a whistleblower complaint, not likely from an arbitration, and it will take years of waiting for the ruling from OSHA. The company tracks write-ups not only by airplane number, but by employee number. If employee number 12345 historically writes up 5 items per 100 flights, but next month that number jumps to 20 items per 100 flights, then employee number 12345 is probably going to be terminated.

They just told our mechanics they were all getting laid off. What do you think will happen to reliability? If it's broken, put it in the book. If they can you, file with the FAA, and then hire a lawyer and sue. I wouldn't fight to get my job back here, I would fight for my golden parachute. Broken = broken... no matter what your history was in the past. I will promise you, if I get canned for an action that is approved in our FOM/CFM i won't think twice about going for cash....

good luck to those sticking it out.
 
Sounds like ALPA doesn't want to help when planes start breaking because the company can't pay for parts and lays off mechanics.

Things have improved around here a lot since the XJ Reps took over. I hope they have the intestinal fortitude to stand up for us while national stands around and watches another group take it in the shorts.

As an aside, didn't the "ALPA" guy posting above get recalled? Why does he still represent a block of pilots at the National level? Things at ALPA that make you go hmmm.
 
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