Piper Arrow question

[Italianaviator]

I was wondering if anybody could clarify the differences of all the types of Piper Arrows out there. I did some research myself and couldn't find much. I know there is the Arrow III, Arrow IV, PA28R, PA-28-140, PA-28-150, PA28 200, etc. I have the feeling that the last three digits are the hp ratings but I'm not sure.

 

[ananoman]

The PA28-140, 150, 160, 180 are all fixed gear, and the three digit number is the HP of the airplane. If there is a '1' as the third digit (PA28-161) then the airplane has a partially tapered wing. A PA28-160 would be the same basic airplane, but with the older rectangular 'Hershey Bar' wing. There are other differences as well. Some of the lower HP ones, like the PA28-161 Cadet model did not have a baggage door to save money, as it was for the training market. There were also different body lengths made. In earlier years the PA28-180 was shorter, then back in the late 60's or early 70's they lengthened the fuselage to give more leg room to the back seaters.

As far as the Arrow goes, these are the PA28R's. The same goes here as well. A PA28R-201 has 200HP and a partially tapered wing. Some of the Arrows had turbo's, others had T-tails. The only one I have flown is the Arrow III and it was a decent airplane. They are kind of slow, but you can carry 4 people and 50 gallons of gas.

You should probably be able to find some info on these airplanes on the web. Trade A Plane would be good, as you can see what the differences are in the pictures and descriptions of airplanes for sale.

 

[gredenko]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Cherokee

 

[JaceTheAce]

PA28-140 is a Cherokee 140, not an Arrow.

The 140 I think is 150 HP though... but I believe the 200 in the Arrow means 200 HP beacuse it does have a 200 HP engine.

Ask the other people on here.....I really have no clue LOL.

 

[timeoff]

PA28-140 is a Cherokee 140, not an Arrow.

On the other hand, the Arrow is technically a Cherokee.

 

[JaceTheAce]

On the other hand, the Arrow is technically a Cherokee.

Too many different Native American names can't keep track!

 

[TFaudree_ERAU]

I always thought the Arrow was -201 because the engine had 201 cu. in. of displacement.

 

[Ian_J]

PA28-140 is a Cherokee 140, not an Arrow.

The 140 I think is 150 HP though...

All true. The 140 has a Lycoming O-320 150HP engine.

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

I always thought the Arrow was -201 because the engine had 201 cu. in. of displacement.

Nope. Ananoman is right. The "1", like the "1" in the simple PA-28 series refers to the wing design.

Sticking with the Arrows only

Arrow III, Arrow IV, PA28R,

PA28R is the general type designator that separates the Retractable and complex Arrow from it's fixed gear/fixed prop PA28 cousins. They came two flavors, the PA28-180 and PA28-200, referring to horsepower.

The Arrow III is a PA28R-201 and is the tapered wing model.

The Arrow IV is a PA28RT-201, the "T" in this case standing for it's "T-tail" where the stabilator is at the top of the vertical stab instead of at the bottom.

(There are also PA28R-201T and PA28RT-201T models that are turbocharged and substantially faster than the normally aspirated ones)

 

[meritflyer]

There is also a PA-28-201T Turbo Dakota.

I have lotsa time in that baby!

 

[TFaudree_ERAU]

Nope. Ananoman is right. The "1", like the "1" in the simple PA-28 series refers to the wing design.

Oh. Well, crap, I pulled one over on the examiner during my commercial check ride. He thought it was true.

 

[Rayflyoz]

Got time in many diff Pa28's. I think the pa28R-200 was the one i enjoyed to the fly the most. However the 28R-180 wasnt much fun at all. Oh yea there is also a cherokee 235 as well.

 

[IFly85]

Another thing, Arrow's have the glide ratio of a flying brick.

 

[Rayflyoz]

:yeahthat: especially the straight winged ones. But a little faster, thats what made it fun

 

[Ian_J]

Another thing, Arrow's have the glide ratio of a flying brick.

:yeahthat: x 2

But that aside, I liked flying them a whole bunch more than the C177RG Cardinal. I *hate* the Cardinal.

 

[Rayflyoz]

or the 172RG, but the T210 is a bunch of fun to fly

 

[MidlifeFlyer]

Another thing, Arrow's have the glide ratio of a flying brick.

The CFI who first checked me out in one told me that it had a "safe glide ratio." Or was that, "glides like a safe"

 

[Ian_J]

The CFI who first checked me out in one told me that it had a "safe glide ratio." Or was that "glides like a safe"?

"You wanna be really close to the runway when you pull the power off for a 180," my CFI said.

"Why?"

Then I found out.

 

[Rayflyoz]

Never had a cfi student make it on the first try at the power off 180 whith the arrow.

 

[BrianNC]

Some of the Arrows had turbo's, others had T-tails. The only one I have flown is the Arrow III and it was a decent airplane. They are kind of slow, but you can carry 4 people and 50 gallons of gas.

Starting with the III they increased to 72 gallons.