"Pilots have girlfriends in every city they go to."
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Screaming_Emu
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This was true for me when I was single, but not anymore. Historically I was always absolutely terrible at talking to women. I was shy, I'd mumble, I wouldn't have a clue what to talk about, it usually didn't go well. I think part of it was the pressure of the "thing" you are talking about. Now that I'm 100% sure that I do not want to act on the thing, talking to the ladies is suddenly a lot easier. At the risk of sounding incredibly insensitive, though I don't mean it that way, now they're just other people. The thing is off the table.
Obviously I still notice certain things and can appreciate them, but I don't feel the pressure of the thing anymore. This is certainly a revelation I wish I had learned much earlier, not that I regret at all how things turned out.
Screaming_Emu
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Yikes. From what I've heard that's like bragging about shopping at big lots. Not exactly the highest quality.
Back to the subject, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing provided all involved parties know what the situation is in advance. Right before I met my wife I had developed a plan (become desperately single enough) to join Eharmony, focus on girls in cities in which I had frequent overnights and just see where things went. It wasn't meant to be anything sleazy, just casting a wide net. Of course what happened was I finally gave Eharmony some of my money, and I met my wife through other means within a week or so.
skyw82
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The funny thing was he was the kind of guy that would always wipe down the flightdeck with special wipes because he didn't want to "catch anything"... I mean Really.
It's like wearing a helmet to go skydiving.
It made me always think of the wisdom I got from 'something about marry' and how dumb people can be going out with a "loaded gun".
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PeanuckleCRJ
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I hear all the time about "AIDS" (aviation divorce syndrome), but I swear that among the guys I fly with at widgets-r-us that the divorce rate is wellll below 50%.
I did have some fun in my single days and got my "have booty, will travel" on from time to time, but hookups on overnights? 99.9% of the time we were scrambling to get a bit of sleep after a 13-16 hour day.
I did have some fun in my single days and got my "have booty, will travel" on from time to time, but hookups on overnights? 99.9% of the time we were scrambling to get a bit of sleep after a 13-16 hour day.
ryan4sail
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SurferLucas
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, truf! Don't stick your little man in crazy (shakes finger, this is the voice of experience talking)
Maximilian_Jenius
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He was East Indian, and had been with his wife probably since their marriage was arranged as kids, who knows. But he was in his late forties, and the crazy bat shizz nurse was in her late twenties and was admittedly HOT. 5'7" blonde/blue, all the curves in the right place. But VERY high maintenance. All the guys were after her, but she would say she only dates doctors, he had to be clearing $350-400k. Plus she also put it on him, good. I guess his Indian wife was boring in bed. Crazy nurse was young and did things his wife would never do, like oral, amongst many other things. He lost his mind, over it apparently. Also I think it was maybe an ego thing, a challenge. She was young and hot and refused everyone on the unit, but he got the green light. Then I'd also guess that it was an excitement thing, sneaking around and not getting caught both with his wife and at work. Work has a policy that if you're dating, you can't work together. So they were kinda thumbing their nose at everyone. Also it could have been just the fact that a new set of eyes were on him, he felt special, wanted again after X amount of years of marriage, so much so that he would throw everything away. That tends to actually be the number one reason why men cheat. A new element is introduced and their ego is stroked and they think wow... I still got it after all this time. Who knows, could have been all those things. All we really got out of him was that she was very, very good in bed, and that she did things to him his wife never would. I guess that, that was his blind spot. We all have one.
Maximilian_Jenius
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ChasenSFO said:
I get you, because part of me was like you. And some might disagree with me. But beauty fades, I know personally that it's nice to have a beautiful person on your arm and be the envy of everyone. It feels real good. But really the more hot they are, the more trouble you're gonna have. That's not to say that you should aim low in the looks department either, just saying that looks shouldn't be the only priority when looking for a life partner. Personality is key.
I'll agree with @Autothrust Blue. "Stop that silly." I say this as a retired 'twink master' as my friends would call me. I'm 38 and most... okay all of my relationships were with guys like 18-22, I think the oldest ever was 25. They were all young hot and in their prime, they were impulsive and had the world by the balls. I loved their energy. But it wasn't ever going to last, because at whatever age I was past twenty-five I was mentally frozen so to speak. The brain stops growing at like age twenty-two. So while my personality is 'frozen' they were still in a state of physical, personal and intellectual growth. They would grow and gain experience, and change from who and what they were when I met them. And at my age well, I was pretty set in my ways and would always be the same.
Another reason I dated twinks besides the obvious ego booster, trophy thing was because they were easy. They were what I easily attracted, I didn't have to work for it. I was lazy. Not only that... they were familiar, all that I knew. Even though from the beginning I knew how everything would go down. And it ALWAYS ended the same way. I challenge you to challenge yourself to find girls your own age, or older. And come a lil' bit harder, and not always aim for the low hanging fruit. I've been single for two years now, it can kinda suck at times. And I can still and do attract the 18-22 set who want me to be their daddy. Not in a sexual way, but in a mature, problem solving way. They really appreciate my stability, compared to theirs. But I'm still swatting em away like flies. I've up my standards basically, and so should you.
Area 5150
Model citizen, Zero discipline
Some people still watch to much Black Sheep Squadron, apparently.
Actually, you can never watch to much of that.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
You met the last one, worth the crazy(and the awkward silence). We're all crazy anyway.
Pachong
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This is nuts! Yet, I've heard of the same thing at my airline. Speaking of rabbit holes...during training, at the hotel we were staying at there was a guy who actually got raped....by two other dudes! The victim wasn't in our class but the police were asking around and said that it was craigslist related. Filthy!
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
The reality is, this whole topic is simply a trope that is a remnant of a completely different era. In the 60s and 70s, when socially we were seeing the sexual revolution and its 2nd and 3rd order effects occur, as well as being a time before the information age, the airline crew was in a unique position to have that kind of fun swingin' lifestyle. Any man who traveled full time on business was in a position to be able to do things on the road, away from family/girlrfiends, and with confidence that there was no way the information might make it back "home" (even if the "away" girlfriend eventually ended up being teh crazy). The same for a generation of newly "liberated" females who were interested in pushing the newly-changing sexual norms, and I'm sure the social status of an airline pilot in the day made him quite an easy panty-dropper for females who were easily swayed. I'm sure for a single dude, and for many married guys, it was quite easy and I'm guessing a whole lotta fun.
Things were different amongst military pilots, too...my first fighter squadron out in North Carolina was the location of one of the notorious "key parties" with pilots wife swapping during the 1980s -- a story which has grown and spread to monstrous proportions all over the place over the years. I doubt it was as widespread and frequent as the story is told these days, but it was unique to that time, place, era, etc.
Obviously, it was a generalization rather than the norm then, just as it is a generalization now. I'm sure there are plenty of pilots who've cheated while out on the road, and those stories only feed into and reinforce the trope, despite the fact that society has changed, the culture around relationships (including casual sex) has changed, the uniqueness of being a "professional business traveler" has changed, etc.
Things were different amongst military pilots, too...my first fighter squadron out in North Carolina was the location of one of the notorious "key parties" with pilots wife swapping during the 1980s -- a story which has grown and spread to monstrous proportions all over the place over the years. I doubt it was as widespread and frequent as the story is told these days, but it was unique to that time, place, era, etc.
Obviously, it was a generalization rather than the norm then, just as it is a generalization now. I'm sure there are plenty of pilots who've cheated while out on the road, and those stories only feed into and reinforce the trope, despite the fact that society has changed, the culture around relationships (including casual sex) has changed, the uniqueness of being a "professional business traveler" has changed, etc.
poser765
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The thing is LOTS of people cheat. As much as 50% of people if some studies are to be believed. I would interested to know it pilots do it more. If I had to guess I would say we don't...and never did. If someone want to bone someone they will find a way. Maybe being a pilot makes it easier to find that way, but traveling for work is not the only way.
mastermags
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As was discussed recently, just don't put them on the payroll.
Autothrust Blue
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Haven't and won't.
poser765
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I'm not even remotely saying you will cheat, but I bet a lot of people who do end up cheating said the same thing.
My point was not that everyone cheats, but that a LOT of people do and is far more common than I think a lot of people realize.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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There is more drama in this thread than a Taylor Swift song.