Phony degree.

[Holocene]

Well that's quite the point, you can't get smashed and fly 8 hours later, and on top of that I can't think of one person here who would want to.
Have you ever thought of a career in fast food?

The fact that someone here would or wouldn't is irrelevant to what the FARs actually say. Under the FARs you can have a few too many and still be legal to fly 8hrs later.

You can cite 91.13 or company policy or whatever; the point is the more intoxicating drug is permissible for pilots to use.

Oh and nice dig. Why would I consider a job in fast food when my current job pays more than 2nd or 3rd year regional pay?

 

[Monk]

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.

How long does pot stay in your system?

 

[SpiceWeasel]

The fact that someone here would or wouldn't is irrelevant to what the FARs actually say. Under the FARs you can have a few too many and still be legal to fly 8hrs later.

You can cite 91.13 or company policy or whatever; the point is the more intoxicating drug is permissible for pilots to use.

Oh and nice dig. Why would I consider a job in fast food when my current job pays more than 2nd or 3rd year regional pay?

Actually, a hangover is still considered a state of intoxication and therefore still illegal, regardless of a random or reasonable suspicion test blow of .02 or less...

 

[Holocene]

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.

How long does pot stay in your system?

A lot longer than the intoxicating effects actually last.

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

(4) While having an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater in a blood or breath specimen. Alcohol concentration means grams of alcohol per deciliter of blood or grams of alcohol per 210 liters of breath.

How long does pot stay in your system?

THC metabolites are detectable for quite a while. The THC itself, and the associated altered state are much less.

It is pretty clear that alcohol is far worse in terms of impairment of psychomotor skills. Those who argue against pot should also argue against alcohol.

 

[gne in prog]

Here is the ROI analysis I did for that paper. Take note of the very optimistic career progression after I graduate. I'll be at least 45 before I am better off financially than I was flying boxes in a 208.

View attachment 26741

Are you planning on retiring at 45?

 

[SteveC]

The hardest (and most important) part of growing up is recognizing that your default-setting opinions about what "matters" are almost always totally wrong and deluded. "You don't know what you don't know" and all of that.

...

But you kids who know it all keep on knowing it all…until one day when you'll realize that the more you know, the more you don't know.

Look........a pattern!

 

[Bumblebee]

I loves me some Boris…

 

[Monk]

THC metabolites are detectable for quite a while. The THC itself, and the associated altered state are much less.

It is pretty clear that alcohol is far worse in terms of impairment of psychomotor skills. Those who argue against pot should also argue against alcohol.

I do

 

[derg]

Oh @Holocene ...

I haven't read most of this thread but:

Aug 14 08: http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/cannabis-useage.71426/

Sept 21 08:

http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/is-a-roll-that-big-of-a-deal.73873/

You are savior of the downtrodden... He who has to pencil-whip time while rolling a 172, going home to smoke pot and find a fake degree.

When are you applying to Endeavor?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Here is the ROI analysis I did for that paper. Take note of the very optimistic career progression after I graduate. I'll be at least 45 before I am better off financially than I was flying boxes in a 208.

View attachment 26741

No doubt.

My earnings history looks only marginally better, as I was continuously employed from 2005 to today, but thanks to the New Pay Package™ (praise be to SAPA, ha ha, for glorious year) I'm very close to what I made working for the gummint at a University desk job...which I quit 3 4 (!) years ago now to fly airplanes. I would do it all again, but I might find a way to do it slightly cheaper.

Doing roughly the same calculations, I'll 'break even' in a few fewer years than you will, but I started considerably earlier, I think, than you did. My tuition was far less (like, a third of yours) and I considered my opportunity cost as $0/annum for each year I spent in college (accurate, for someone in my field(s)), plus the continuous employment, makes it a little more palatable.

 

[USMCmech]

Are you planning on retiring at 45?

I doubt I will retire ever. The purpose of that chart is to demonstrate how long it can take college to pay off financially.

Also, hindsight being 20/20 if I had interviewed at Eagle in 2010 or 2011, I would have been included in the flow through agreement and would have likely wound up at AA without a degree.

Just because I would be financially better off, doesn't mean that I would be better off. I was already burnt out waking up at 0430 to fly a bunch of boxes from DFW-ABI-DFW every morning. There is more to a job than just the paycheck.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I doubt I will retire ever. The purpose of that chart is to demonstrate how long it can take college to pay off financially.

Also, hindsight being 20/20 if I had interviewed at Eagle in 2010 or 2011, I would have been included in the flow through agreement and would have likely wound up at AA without a degree.

Just because I would be financially better off, doesn't mean that I would be better off. I was already burnt out waking up at 0430 to fly a bunch of boxes from DFW-ABI-DFW every morning. There is more to a job than just the paycheck.

...which is why I got out of doing what I was doing, and into flying airplanes professionally.

 

[derg]

Actually, a hangover is still considered a state of intoxication and therefore still illegal, regardless of a random or reasonable suspicion test blow of .02 or less...

This is very important.

 

[Monk]

Other short-term psychological effects of pot include:

• Distorted sense of time
• Paranoia
• Magical or "random" thinking
• Short-term memory loss
• Anxiety and depression

These psychological signs of using pot also generally ease after a few hours. But residual effects can last for days.
Web md

 

[Bumblebee]

and true clarity may take months.

 

[Screaming_Emu]

The good moral character requirement for this job prohibits lying, period.

Integrity is a function of what you do when nobody is looking.

So integrity=not wearing pants.

Basically.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

and true clarity may take months.

...Dude!

 

[scooter2525]

But you kids who know it all keep on knowing it all…until one day when you'll realize that the more you know, the more you don't know.

Uh, and if you don't know, now you know, friend, uh

 

[Autothrust Blue]

So integrity=not wearing pants.

Basically.

No, if you wanted to do that, you should do Air Traffic Control.

*ducks*