Pay raise today
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jynxyjoe
Queso King
Yeah, we need a serious beer and wings session.
Angry Pilots Central is giving my stomach knots, but I will say it's good to see us talking to each other. I've been watching the "I'm gonna cut you" thread and I'd be happy to translate (tone down) any thing said on there. For instance!
Indapit said:
Now, to really translate this verbage you must remember these are turbo-prop pilots. Men among men really. It's not uncommon to go into the crewroom and play the "punch you in the shoulder until you are numb because I love you" game. We're a fun loving, rough and tumble group who've come off a big success on the bankruptcy negotiations and are a very confident group. So, without further adue (i don't know any French sorry):
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Heh, yeah THAT thread. I see you picked up on that. 
I'm all for trying to understand everyone's position. Hell, that's why I talk to people in the first place. However, once I start getting the "You guys are cowboys and just don't want to go with the majority" or "You'll be thankful that you've got the XJ pilots and our MEC knows everything," it starts to get old. I'd lay odds that if the positions were switch and the XJ MEC were the ones organizing the picketing and the 9E and 9L pilots were saying it was wrong, they'd be just a vehemntely supporting it as the 9E guys are now. Don't tell them that, though. That would negate their whole "majority rules" argument. I just don't undestand how we can have a lot of pilots that were ready to join the 9E guys suddenly flip and say "Nope. 6 guys said it's a bad idea, so you guys are all half-cocked nut jobs." Maybe I just don't trust anyone anymore, but I'd want to know the motivation past "we're making progress."
I'm all for trying to understand everyone's position. Hell, that's why I talk to people in the first place. However, once I start getting the "You guys are cowboys and just don't want to go with the majority" or "You'll be thankful that you've got the XJ pilots and our MEC knows everything," it starts to get old. I'd lay odds that if the positions were switch and the XJ MEC were the ones organizing the picketing and the 9E and 9L pilots were saying it was wrong, they'd be just a vehemntely supporting it as the 9E guys are now. Don't tell them that, though. That would negate their whole "majority rules" argument. I just don't undestand how we can have a lot of pilots that were ready to join the 9E guys suddenly flip and say "Nope. 6 guys said it's a bad idea, so you guys are all half-cocked nut jobs." Maybe I just don't trust anyone anymore, but I'd want to know the motivation past "we're making progress."
jynxyjoe
Queso King
anic: Get outta my head!! Time to wear the tinfoil hat...
HA
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Heh, yeah THAT thread. I see you picked up on that.
I'm all for trying to understand everyone's position. Hell, that's why I talk to people in the first place. However, once I start getting the "You guys are cowboys and just don't want to go with the majority" or "You'll be thankful that you've got the XJ pilots and our MEC knows everything," it starts to get old. I'd lay odds that if the positions were switch and the XJ MEC were the ones organizing the picketing and the 9E and 9L pilots were saying it was wrong, they'd be just a vehemntely supporting it as the 9E guys are now. Don't tell them that, though. That would negate their whole "majority rules" argument. I just don't undestand how we can have a lot of pilots that were ready to join the 9E guys suddenly flip and say "Nope. 6 guys said it's a bad idea, so you guys are all half-cocked nut jobs." Maybe I just don't trust anyone anymore, but I'd want to know the motivation past "we're making progress."
"I only trust two people. One's me and the other's not you."
By the way, I'm getting an early news release from the Mec's office... yes... yes, it's coming through now on the teletype. I'm quoting here, "We're making progress". Alright so there you have it. Everything is fine.
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
By the way, I'm getting an early news release from the Mec's office... yes... yes, it's coming through now on the teletype. I'm quoting here, "We're making progress". Alright so there you have it. Everything is fine.
At least you've got teletype. Most pilots at 9E (those non-MEM based) still rely on decoding smoke signals.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
I'm all for spirited disagreement. That's normal and expected. But the "we're better than you" attitude is gonna have to go before the SLI I don't care which airline you currently fly for. We're all equally gonna get screwed by management in the end. I saw Walt in another thread in the General section, but he hasn't poked his head in here. Probably smarter than both of us put together.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
That's what I gather. He's not a dumb man.
I don't know what to say about the who is better than who stuff. No matter what you think, at some point you'd imagine guys would pocket those feelings in the interest of unity.
PS. Even though the truth was our managers always told us "we can't afford to be pinnacle", now we can.
I would hope those XJ pilots on APC are the ones on reserve with nothing better to do than to come on there and rant idiotic things. There's a few on there that can hold a reasonable conversation but the majority is who's weiner is bigger than who's. It sucks it has gotten out of control like this. At least on here we can have an intelligent conversation without it getting out of control. Like someone mentioned, when it's all said and done, we need to all get together and have a wings and beer session. Heck I don't know most of you but the first round of beers are on me, because frankly, I'm better than you. I'M KIDDING!!!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
I always thought that the bored guy makes good points and a few of the other guys on there are fine. Even Indapit seemed ok but now it seems like he/she has fallen into bad form. O well, let the meltdown continue!
Oh, and I'm better than you nc.
You're not on the turboprop anymore. You can't say stuff like that if your on the "9". Speaking of which, you holding a good schedule on the jet? We are going from like 7 reserve lines to like 16 up in DTW. I'll be sitting on my arse for the next 6 months doing nothing. Well that and ready reserve every damn day.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Oh yeah, the 900 schedules are good stuff. I've got it good, even though I don't fly anymore and jets are for sissy's. I miss the old Saab.
/side rant
I was close to bidding back into the saab because I wanted nothing to do with the -900. However I remember what flying dead equipment was like at Colgan (1900) and it was miserable. Anyway, wasn't going to do that to myself all over again when I could get the fat per diem check and make the company pay for another (sic) type . If it made any financial sense I'd be on the saab still, begging to fly yd only back and forth from GLH and TUP. O well, maybe Colgan will bring back the 1900.
/end rant.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Same here. I'll be in the corner holding my breathe. Union sent out an e-mail with all the current open sections today. Let's just say those better be a damn productive 4 days. If they TA two sections a day, there'd still be one left. I mean, really, the company is going back off the reimbursement for a taxi if the hotel is 15 minutes late? It was good enough for them 11 years ago, but they can't have it in there now, I guess.....
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Joe, I think raytheon gave LVG back to us...something about unfit for service or whatever... Cause its a1900 we know that's a load of crap. If you play nice I bet they will let you fly it!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Play nice? I hope we end up with George Casey crying in the corner once he comes running the training department.
Honestly though... if Lima Victor Gangsta was the club plane I might be able to smile once in a while at work.
