Part 142, "Bustin' Balls", ERAU and Chris Ford's Signature

Re: How DARE they strike!

Champcar said:
I herd somewere

Please tell me that you did this on purpose. :D

And I know I'm the last person to correct others about grammar and spelling, but since Ford established a precedent in this thread, I thought "Why not".
 
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Mariano said:
Please tell me that you did this on purpose. :D

And I know I'm the last person to correct others about grammar and spelling, but since Ford established a precedent in this thread, I thought "Why not".
Damn I knew there was an "a" in there.
 
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Dugie....For the same reason I wouldn't want a fresh CFI out of any school to teach me. Call me Hypocritical since I will expect people to learn from me at some point when I am a fresh CFI. However my right as a consumer is that I am not going to go that route myself. :)

I am not a Part 141 or 142 proponent because I fail to see how flying LESS makes you better? I will take a solid Part 61 program everytime.
 
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Champcar said:
Ive got a 142 question. I herd somewere that the airlines were not allowed to count Sim time towards a new hires total time...is this true?

Thats correct, you can mention FTD time and they may take it into consideration as far as I know but it doesnt count as total time.

Feel free to correct me becasue I'm not 100% sure.:)
 
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Dugie8 said:
You answered your own question. Once you have a Commercial cert, under any part (61, 141, 142, mil flight time conversion, etc) you can get the required training and take your CFI ride.

I see exactly what you are saying, so private thru commercial under Part 141 or 142 require less time, then get the CFI Part 61. I follow you completely. ALL of my training is Part 61, that is why it did not immediately come to mind. :)
 
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desertdog71 said:
Oh and Chris how did you manage a CFI at 220 hours under Part 61? 250 hours is the requirement for commercial.

50 hours FTD. Got my commercial at like 205 or so...
 
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desertdog71 said:
Dugie....For the same reason I wouldn't want a fresh CFI out of any school to teach me. Call me Hypocritical since I will expect people to learn from me at some point when I am a fresh CFI. However my right as a consumer is that I am not going to go that route myself. :)

I am not a Part 141 or 142 proponent because I fail to see how flying LESS makes you better? I will take a solid Part 61 program everytime.

You take the same or more stagechecks and checkrides as any other part...
 
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Chris_Ford said:
If you understood the source of that line, then maybe you'd understand it... :whatever:

Well, im just doing as you advise...

"take EVERYTHING I SAY 100% LITERAL"
 
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S40_flyer said:
You take the same or more stagechecks and checkrides as any other part...

yeah and we all know that EVERY CHECKRIDE is the same no matter who does it right? :sarcasm:
I doubt a DE who gets multiple checkrides from say a particular University is gonna be failing too many borderline students, that would be bad for business. :sarcasm:
That is the same reason that people avoid the FSDO's like the Plague if possible for the CFI initial.
Stagechecks? shouldn't your instructor know what your progress is without a stagecheck?
I haven't taken a stagecheck yet, and I don't plan on any. A practice checkride yes, but no stagechecks.
 
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S40_flyer said:
Well, im just doing as you advise...

"take EVERYTHING I SAY 100% LITERAL"

Good, continue to do so. That still makes what I just said regarding the source applicable. Isn't it about time you put on your ray bans and shot a remake of Top Gun with your buddies and some Flight Sim?
 
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Instead of arguing about what you guys think is correct, how about opening up that FAR/AIM and quoting a reg that proves I was able to get my commercial at 200 hours total time.
 
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GaTechKid said:
Instead of arguing about what you guys think is correct, how about opening up that FAR/AIM and quoting a reg that proves I was able to get my commercial at 200 hours total time.
4. Flight training. (a) Each approved course must include at least the following flight training, as provided in this section and section No. 5 of this appendix, on the approved areas of operation listed in paragraph (d) of this section that are appropriate to the aircraft category and class rating for which the course applies:
(1) 120 hours of training if the course is for an airplane or powered-lift rating.
(2) 155 hours of training if the course is for an airship rating.
(3) 115 hours of training if the course is for a rotocraft rating.
(4) 6 hours of training if the course is for a glider rating.
(5) 10 hours of training and 8 training flights if the course is for a balloon rating.
(b) Each approved course must include at least the following flight training:
(1) For an airplane single-engine course: 55 hours of flight training from a certificated flight instructor on the approved areas of operation listed in paragraph (d)(1) of this section that includes at least—
(i) 5 hours of instrument training in a single-engine airplane;
(ii) 10 hours of training in a single-engine airplane that has retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered;
(iii) One cross-country flight in a single-engine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in day VFR conditions;
(iv) One cross-country flight in a single-engine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in night VFR conditions; and
(v) 3 hours in a single-engine airplane in preparation for the practical test within 60 days preceding the date of the test.
(2) For an airplane multiengine course: 55 hours of flight training from a certificated flight instructor on the approved areas of operation listed in paragraph (d)(2) of this section that includes at least—
(i) 5 hours of instrument training in a multiengine airplane;
(ii) 10 hours of training in a multiengine airplane that has retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered;
(iii) One cross-country flight in a multiengine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in day VFR conditions;
(iv) One cross-country flight in a multiengine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in night VFR conditions; and
(v) 3 hours in a multiengine airplane in preparation for the practical test within 60 days preceding the date of the test.


Is that what you wanted?
 
Re: How DARE they strike!

Chris_Ford said:
Good, continue to do so. That still makes what I just said regarding the source applicable. Isn't it about time you put on your ray bans and shot a remake of Top Gun with your buddies and some Flight Sim?

*GASP*...How did you find out about that...:whatever:
 
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S40_flyer said:
HAHA, yea man thats what its come to...

Just fun bustin balls man. It has no effect on me one way or another.

You obviously feel good about what you are doing. My opinion shouldn't make too much of a difference to you.
 
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desertdog71 said:
Just fun bustin balls man. It has no effect on me one way or another.

You obviously feel good about what you are doing. My opinion shouldn't make too much of a difference to you.

It doesnt, its just fun to talk to other fellow aviation enthusiasts about big important subjects such as these!
:nana2:
 
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Is that what you wanted?

Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I want the Part 61 regs that prove I was able to attain the commercial certificate at 200 hours total flight time.
 
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GaTechKid said:
Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I want the Part 61 regs that prove I was able to attain the commercial certificate at 200 hours total flight time.

I mentioned it earlier... upwards of 50 hours FTD...
 
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