Part 141 schools get a break on new ATP requirement?

This is what we do in Europe, pass your ATP written with 400-500hrs, you get a "frozen-atp". At 1500 TT it becomes valid. Frozen ATP is often times a requirement with JAA carriers. But then you get to fly B737 or A320's with 250TT.
 
There is no such license in Europe as a Frozen ATP. It is just a term to describe a commercial pilot with all the tests/exams out of the way. This is my understanding at least, maybe there is actually one. If there is, it shouldn't come here.

Calling yourself an ATP, frozen, thawed or well-done, just because you've passed the theory subjects test (written) is a little naive.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
There is no such license in Europe as a Frozen ATP. It is just a term to describe a commercial pilot with all the tests/exams out of the way. This is my understanding at least, maybe there is actually one. If there is, it shouldn't come here.

Calling yourself an ATP, frozen, thawed or well-done, just because you've passed the theory subjects test (written) is a little naive.
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No, your pass your ATP written right after your commercial, it is just on hold until you reach the JAR ATP requirements. It is an actual requirement. Is it considered as a licence in itself ? No. I rather view it a super-commercial.
You then pass 234 check rides, 72 written tests that would qualify you as a Space Shuttle commander right away anywhere else than Europe and pray you get a job, with your astronomical theoretical knowledge and virtually no flying experience and over 100,000€ of debts. It's a different philosophy, see...
 
Almost every airline in the US requires you to have your ATP written done right now, too. We just don't call it something silly like a "Frozen ATP" when all it is you have the tests out of the way. You still have to meet the aeronautical experience requirements and you still have to take a checkride to get your ATP.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
Almost every airline in the US requires you to have your ATP written done right now, too. We just don't call it something silly like a "Frozen ATP" when all it is you have the tests out of the way. You still have to meet the aeronautical experience requirements and you still have to take a checkride to get your ATP.
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Aren't we Europeans silly ! :beer:
More seriously this is exactly like that this side of the pond. Pass the ATP written, start building your hours (no such thing in Europe) and once you get to ATP requirement the written is automatically validated, but you still have to pass the checkride.
 
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