Pan American Airways is back/been back...

Just to clarify, there have been 3 or 4 Pan Am's so far, depending on how you look at it. Here is a nerdy history lesson:

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Pan American World Airways (1927-1991) was the original Pan Am.

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Pan American Airways (1996-1998) was the second Pan Am. They were founded in MIA with an A300, then they bought Carnival Airlines(who was flying 737s, 727s, and A300s on behalf of the cruise line) and operated as two airlines for a short time before starting to repaint the fleet in Pan Am colors. They mostly did "sunbird" and cruise-line flying from MIA and FLL, but went as far West as LAX.

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Pan American Airways (1998-2004) was started with the left over assets and certificates of the above failed Pan Am/Carnival combination with a few 727s based out of PSM. They mostly connected the Northeast with Florida and the Caribbean until the 727s were transferred to Boston-Maine Airways where they mostly did charters.

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Pan Am Clipper-Connection/Boston-Maine Airways (1999-2008) was a PSM based feeder providing connections for the above Pan American Airways with Jetstreams. Shortly after the 727 operation was put onto the BMA certificate, the name was changed to Pan Am Systems in 06 until they folded in 08.

Hopefully they just put the name to rest now.
 
Yes. Please no more "(Defunct Airline) is Coming Back!"

When an airline eats it, they eat it hard.

"We're bringing that dropped incandescent lightbulb back!"
 
JPAA said:
I am a retired Pan Am employee. I not only remember the 747's but I was on duty the night the first flight left JFK. It was an all VIP demo flight. I was also there when the first scheduled flight left. We had engine problems with the early Pratt & Whitney JT9's. The outer liners would go oval when the plane turned into the wind and the engines flamed out. I was very busy expediting those liners through the overhaul facility for months afterward. I traveled many miles on the 747-100's and was on the plane that went down in Lockerbie years before the bombing. I went very many miles on the 707's including all but one leg on flight 001 (Round the world) in 1971. The 727's (100's) of the original Pan Am were rotated between the Caribbean and the Internal German Service to average their cycles. I flew on some of them as well. I also was on the PAA airbus and L1011-500. I've flown on a number of other older birds but the most memorable was a Reeve Aleutian Airways Lockheed Electra from Fairbanks to Anchorage.
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Perhaps we crossed paths, my mother worked there 64-73 1n management maintaining the Sabre system. They use to throw these extravagant parties at our house in Nyack and all the big mucky mucks would show up. Many with flight manuals in tow for the little blond hair blue eye boy who was fascinated in flying. If I had a nickel for all the time I spent in Pan Am cockpits growing up, I could had retired years ago. I know there was a lot of bad blood toward the end but I'll always have great memories of those days.
 
i had the unique opportunity to work for Boston-Maine Airways for about 36 hours. About a month before I was furloughed by US back in 2002 i got an interview with Boston Maine. I flew up to MHT, rented a car, and drove over. The jetstream 31s they were flying were the same jetstream 31s that I had flown at Chautauqua a few years earlier. I used that fact to persuade them to let me come up and have a look. I spent the night at a Motel 6 by the airport and interviewed with the chief pilot the next morning.

A few days later I was offered the job as a Jetstream Captain. I took a leave of absence from my last 30 days of employment at US and drove up to Pease from Pittsburgh. I checked into a low-rent hotel and the next morning went to class. They started indoc by attempting to teach weight and balance using a whiz-wheel. The instructor did not know how to use it properly and I ended up having to show him during a break. Later that night I met with a retired USAir Captain named Hobie who ran safety there. He told me to turn around and go home.

The next morning I found out that I was actually being hired to be a FO, not a Captain and - furthermore - there would be a training contract that nobody had mentioned up to that point. I called my wife at lunch and told her that I had some bad juju about that place. She said come on home. SO... after lunch on day 2, I turned in my ID badge and books and drove home. Called US back and had them take me off of leave for my remaining 30 days.

Shortest airline job in history. :)
 
jwp_145 said:
Please elaborate...
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Dude shows up for class at 8am and is issued an ID. By 12 noon, said ID is taken away and he is escorted off the property.

Moral= When leaving your previous employer, two weeks notice is the norm, not walking out of a rotation mid way through on the first day of class. All it takes is one call to tell them what to did and suddenly you are the most unemployable pilot in the country.
 
Cptnchia said:
Dude shows up for class at 8am and is issued an ID. By 12 noon, said ID is taken away and he is escorted off the property.

Moral= When leaving your previous employer, two weeks notice is the norm, not walking out of a rotation mid way through on the first day of class. All it takes is one call to tell them what to did and suddenly you are the most unemployable pilot in the country.
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Guess he didn't see that one coming. OK then.
 
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