PA-34 Mentor Pilots Florida and Texas

Aviator_Bakeek said:
Since I have been unemployed for 5 months, I thought I would give them a call and at least see what they were offering...heres the meat and potatoes.

You can give them a call and you will be called back by another gentleman. He will tell you he doesn't hire anyone that doesn't spend money with him. He will give you some numbers and try and sell you $20,000 of seneca time. He won't listen to you and really not interested in hiring anyone, just trying to sell training.

Don't bother sending them a resume, unless you want to buy the time.
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I had the same call. The whole program sounds really sketchy. That and I could not get rid of guy. He is very pushy.
 
Mentor Employment special - Buy 200 hours for $20,200 = $101/hour :crazy:
Multi-time block - 100 hour block for $8,500 = $85/hour

:hiya: The math is wrong! Why would anyone pay more per hour to backseat when they could sit in the front and fly the plane?!
 
Just two students in the plane? I know of a flight school down here where at one point there was one instructor and one student in the back, then two students up front. Everybody was logging flight time.

I also know of a particular situation where a girl tried to pass her Multi-ride twice and couldn't do it. She was sweet and charming and everyone loved her so the DPE sat in the back, the Chief pilot sat in the right seat and the student in the left. The Chief pilot (who was friends with her parents) was there to "supervise" and she passed with flying colors. She now flies right seat in the Airbus A320. Yay!:clap:
 
HVYMETALDRVR said:
Just two students in the plane? I know of a flight school down here where at one point there was one instructor and one student in the back, then two students up front. Everybody was logging flight time.

I also know of a particular situation where a girl tried to pass her Multi-ride twice and couldn't do it. She was sweet and charming and everyone loved her so the DPE sat in the back, the Chief pilot sat in the right seat and the student in the left. The Chief pilot (who was friends with her parents) was there to "supervise" and she passed with flying colors. She now flies right seat in the Airbus A320. Yay!:clap:
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:banghead:

That's about all I got.
 
Pursuant to the numerous uneducated and unprofessional posts pertaining to APPP Accelerated Professional Pilot Program.
Here are facts. Listen up.
1. I am the Senior Development and Sales Manager for APPP. My background is Airlines 6000 plus hrs on the EMB145, BAE J32, Assistant Chief Flight Instructor, Corporate Pilot, Contract Pilot, Military Pilot and FAA Operations Inspector.

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As a former FAA Operations Inspector, I suggest you read the CFR's and understand them, or get real experience before you show your ignorace of the business of aviaiton. The boss and I will be happy to educate you, and help you in your aviaiton career. The people in our company especially the owner and myself know the business of Aviation.

Jeff Britt Sr. Senior Development and Sales Manager. APPP :rawk:
 
What professional pilot school/training program/whatever tries to sell itself on the tag line "Don't hate the player, hate the game?"

I'll give you credit I've seen a lot of things in aviation and that is a first for me.
 
737fltman said:
Pursuant to the numerous uneducated and unprofessional posts pertaining to APPP Accelerated Professional Pilot Program.
Here are facts. Listen up.
1. I am the Senior Development and Sales Manager for APPP. My background is Airlines 6000 plus hrs on the EMB145, BAE J32, Assistant Chief Flight Instructor, Corporate Pilot, Contract Pilot, Military Pilot and FAA Operations Inspector.

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As a former FAA Operations Inspector, I suggest you read the CFR's and understand them, or get real experience before you show your ignorace of the business of aviaiton. The boss and I will be happy to educate you, and help you in your aviaiton career. The people in our company especially the owner and myself know the business of Aviation.

Jeff Britt Sr. Senior Development and Sales Manager. APPP :rawk:
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Hmmm, "Listen up uneducated, unprofessional, ignorant"
Welcome to the group..."Newbie" just a thought but that opening may not do much for your BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, and SALES...
 
737fltman said:
Pursuant to the numerous uneducated and unprofessional posts pertaining to APPP Accelerated Professional Pilot Program.
Here are facts. Listen up.
1. I am the Senior Development and Sales Manager for APPP. My background is Airlines 6000 plus hrs on the EMB145, BAE J32, Assistant Chief Flight Instructor, Corporate Pilot, Contract Pilot, Military Pilot and FAA Operations Inspector.

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As a former FAA Operations Inspector, I suggest you read the CFR's and understand them, or get real experience before you show your ignorace of the business of aviaiton. The boss and I will be happy to educate you, and help you in your aviaiton career. The people in our company especially the owner and myself know the business of Aviation.

Jeff Britt Sr. Senior Development and Sales Manager. APPP :rawk:
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How about you set us straight and tell us exactly what this "mentor pilot" job is?
 
This from a post in late 2008 about the same place:

737fltman said:
I went down there and had a very good experience a year and half ago.
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This from this thread in 2010:

I am the Senior Development and Sales Manager for APPP. My background is Airlines 6000 plus hrs on the EMB145, BAE J32, Assistant Chief Flight Instructor, Corporate Pilot, Contract Pilot, Military Pilot and FAA Operations Inspector.

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As a former FAA Operations Inspector, I suggest you read the CFR's and understand them, or get real experience before you show your ignorace of the business of aviaiton. The boss and I will be happy to educate you, and help you in your aviaiton career. The people in our company especially the owner and myself know the business of Aviation.
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Am I to understand that you went from a "time builder" roughly mid-2006 to an FAA Ops inspector, airlines and 6000 hours on the 145/J32 AND the military? Sorry, I gotta call BS on this one. I've only gone from regional FO to CA in that time. Either you're REALLY, REALLY, REALLY lucky or there's some information missing somewhere. Not that you'll repsond. You've posted 7 times, and all of them have been in pure defense of this outfit.
 
737fltman said:
Pursuant to the numerous uneducated and unprofessional posts pertaining to APPP Accelerated Professional Pilot Program.
Here are facts. Listen up.
1. I am the Senior Development and Sales Manager for APPP. My background is Airlines 6000 plus hrs on the EMB145, BAE J32, Assistant Chief Flight Instructor, Corporate Pilot, Contract Pilot, Military Pilot and FAA Operations Inspector.

<edited>
As a former FAA Operations Inspector, I suggest you read the CFR's and understand them, or get real experience before you show your ignorace of the business of aviaiton. The boss and I will be happy to educate you, and help you in your aviaiton career. The people in our company especially the owner and myself know the business of Aviation.

Jeff Britt Sr. Senior Development and Sales Manager. APPP :rawk:
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I like the way this guy shows his "ignorace" when talking about matters of "aviaiton" :yup: I met these clowns at Sun N Fun a couple years ago... A joke of an outfit, tried selling me multi time, at the time I was a working MEI getting paid $35 an hour to give actual instruction. Laughable. Really pushy though.

On a side note, it is legal to log PIC from the back, if your ''Accepting responsibility for the flight" such as the commander in an AWACS on surveilance loop and getting midair refueled, with the pilots swapping out, but the commander being PIC in the back, at least thats the way Walt Shammel explained it to me during my CFI ground school, and he was on the committee to write the FARs.
 
However, the airlines consider PIC as the person solely responsible for the aircraft aka "signed for the jet".
 
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