OMG OMG OMG! A Hole in an AIRPLANE!!!! OMGZ

MikeD said:
Depends on the calibre and where they hit. Small arms you may or may not hear, depending. 12.7mm and up, you will. 85mm and up, you might not ever know if you heard it or not.
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If there are outlaws that well-armed in the states now, we're going to need to revisit "stabilized" approach criteria...
 
Ian J said:
A 30mm round went through the bottom of my cockpit once and it made a very alarming sound. Had 7.62 rounds go through the back and no one noticed until the post flight.
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Thats what I kinda figured. Some crazy popping a few .22 rounds wouldn't do much, but a BMG round would probably make some noise.
 
ASA had an E-120 hit by a .45ACP round a few years ago landing in KILM. They even found the spent round in an overhead bin. Got the local FBI all spooled up for a few days. Apparently, some jackrabbit fired into the air, and the round impacted the fuselage on top, just forward of the vertical stab, on it's way back down. It entered the cargo bin, turned 90 degrees and proceeded forward, into one of the overhead bins over the back row.

It happens. Had some 3 inch mortar fireworks shot at us one New Year's Eve, landing in Myrtle Beach. They exploded right in front of us about 2 miles out on final. Was quite a sight.
 
This happens every new years eve and 4th of July. It's gotten to the point where the city is bringing in extra police to deal with the areas right around the airport area.

Last year it was so bad that approach and tower were advising us to use extreme caution and lights out landing were common that night. One of our Barons got hit while it was in the hanger and bags bullets are found on the ramp the next day.
 
A hole in the fuselage could doom all of the passengers. In the movie Airport 1977 (or was that a documentary - I don't recall), a 747 crashed into the ocean and sank, but because it's pressurized, everyone was just fine. In a water ditching, one tiny hole = dead passengers. For this reason, Chesley Sullenberger needs to answer as to why he didn't order the FAs to keep the doors CLOSED.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075648/
 
tomokc said:
A hole in the fuselage could doom all of the passengers. In the movie Airport 1977 (or was that a documentary - I don't recall), a 747 crashed into the ocean and sank, but because it's pressurized, everyone was just fine. In a water ditching, one tiny hole = dead passengers. For this reason, Chesley Sullenberger needs to answer as to why he didn't order the FAs to keep the doors CLOSED.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075648/
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I see what you did there :P
 
I took fire from at least two different places one very, very early morning (like 4:30am) coming out of KHKS in a 210 after a holiday weekend. For the uninitiated, KHKS ain't in the best part of town (if there is a best part of that town). It's in the sort of neighborhood where you roll up your windows to deflect the incoming low-velocity ammo, at least if you're a white boy driving a 1981 Civic covered in housepaint to the airport to disrupt everyone's sleep. I didn't even think it warranted reporting, honestly. But I distinctly remember looking down to watch the gear come up and seeing two separate muzzle flashes. I mean, maybe they were just drunk and "celebratory", I dunno. Regardless, it never even occurred to me that they might HIT anything.
 
You know what's funny, is that over some parts of the US, we have to worry about small arms fire. But I've flown over both Iran and Pakistan on numerous occasions and didn't see nary a tracer! :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
You know what's funny, is that over some parts of the US, we have to worry about small arms fire. But I've flown over both Iran and Pakistan on numerous occasions and didn't see nary a tracer! :)
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You're not going to see tracers from the stratosphere, unless they're firing 85/100mm. Then you'll see the black puffs from the airbursts. :)
 
boondr said:
I had a police helicopter tell me he was being shot at one night, he told me he was going to turn off his collision lights, it was slow and in the Class B but I made abroadcast on the frequency and notified the adjacent facilities
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Probably Baltimore City, fOXTROT 1. Sometimes i feel like doing the same after listening to their radio calls.
 
MikeD said:
You're not going to see tracers from the stratosphere, unless they're firing 85/100mm. Then you'll see the black puffs from the airbursts. :)
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So that WASN'T light chop over Karachi? Holy smokes man, I guess I WAS dancing with that Golden BB!
 
You know I'm sitting here on the deck of the neighborhood bar and a caravan (I think) went screaming overhead without a light on at all. Drugs? Operational anti-AAA avoidance? :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
You know I'm sitting here on the deck of the neighborhood bar and a caravan (I think) went screaming overhead without a light on at all. Drugs? Operational anti-AAA avoidance? :)
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Ive been dropping bombs in eastern Afghanistan providing CAS to troops or an outpost in contact with the enemy on the ground both day and night, and have been capped in altitude by the AWACS due to airliner traffic passing overhead east/westbound out of Pakistan.

Weird when I had a chance to later think about it.
 
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