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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Honest question, do you just get off on personal attacks on JC members? The conversation was actually fairly civil and on-subject. Until you (as usual) spouted your typical personal attack deflection.

My experience, those who attack others on a personal level about their careers are actually on the inside miserable about how their own career turned out - and project it outwards.
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Dude this is your schtick. You constantly berate other airlines and especially ones who you act are “superior” to you when they aren’t. Then cry foul when it’s given back to you.

Don’t dish it out if you’re too sensitive to take it. Come on now…
 
tcco94 said:
Dude this is your schtick. You constantly berate other airlines and especially ones who you act are “superior” to you when they aren’t. Then cry foul when it’s given back to you.

Don’t dish it out if you’re too sensitive to take it. Come on now…
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It’s like he’s talking to himself on that one…


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tcco94 said:
Dude this is your schtick. You constantly berate other airlines and especially ones who you act are “superior” to you when they aren’t. Then cry foul when it’s given back to you.

Don’t dish it out if you’re too sensitive to take it. Come on now…
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At least he's comical and it doesn't manifest from some irrepressible simmering darkness. So he's got that going for him, LOL!
 
tcco94 said:
Dude this is your schtick. You constantly berate other airlines and especially ones who you act are “superior” to you when they aren’t. Then cry foul when it’s given back to you.

Don’t dish it out if you’re too sensitive to take it. Come on now…
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There’s a difference between a publicly traded company and private individuals on a forum. The appropriate equivalency would be to clap back at my employer. Not a personal attack like zmiller does. i would think the difference is fairly obvious / straightforward.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Wow, this is definitely worth a listen.

At first I thought the pilot was really unprepared if he didn’t look at any of the VFR departure info.

So I looked it up. There isn’t anything published at all, at least that’s official from the FAA (no TEC for SQL either). I had to google one of the “transitions” referenced by the controller, which finally brought up an obscure VOLUNTARY noise abatement procedure document from an unofficial source.

That controller is an absolute jackass and should get reprimanded for the way he talked to this guy. It’s completely unreasonable to expect a transient pilot to be familiar and prepared for what the controller was referencing. Anyone remember that jerkoff that used to work out of MRY? Sounds just like him, I wonder if he works at SQL now?

I wish I flew GA in the Bay Area, I’d purposely fly out of SQL and tell that guy to get bent.
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Yeah, I saw someone make this point in the comments. That they are not in the AFD, nor published VFR route. Apparently it’s a voluntary program.
 
derg said:
…Alaskan...
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To what extent does RAAS work in the Delta fleet? Mostly curiosity as RAAS+ Smart runway and smart landing for us means that the RAAS would be all sorts of angry with us for launching of a non programmed runway. We’d get the no take off runway, probably runway too short and some other fun things lol.

However we don’t have a runway change checklist- as the big items are line ups for us.


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jhugz said:
This procedure in the ATIS of expecting pilots to be able to switch runways at a drop of a dime without any warning or setup time.
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It's the new standard. Got a problem? Boss wants more flow? Make the pilots deal with it, then scream at them when they can't move mountains for you. As pointed out above, we're paid by the hour. Those guys were trying to *HELP*, and that's the thanks they get? Cool, set the brake.
 
Do your airlines have a threat-plan-consideration model for briefing? Or some very close variation?


I don't see how ya can't anticipate - and plan for - a runway change (especially one that is the same runway other side, eg SFO 28L and 28R, SEA 16L and 16C).
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Do your airlines have a threat-plan-consideration model for briefing? Or some very close variation?


I don't see how ya can't anticipate - and plan for - a runway change (especially one that is the same runway other side, eg SFO 28L and 28R, SEA 16L and 16C).
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Again, it’s not the briefing or the anticipation. You can brief anything. The crucial part is making sure that the airplane is actually going to do what you briefed. If you’re just reading the checklist you’re doing it wrong.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Do your airlines have a threat-plan-consideration model for briefing? Or some very close variation?


I don't see how ya can't anticipate - and plan for - a runway change (especially one that is the same runway other side, eg SFO 28L and 28R, SEA 16L and 16C).
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Obviously one considers the possibility. That's not company-dependent. You're not any smarter, institutionally, than anyone else. But I'm still mystified as to how the runway being "similar" makes the runway change any less (or more) complex. Like, what changes (about the changes), whether it's going from 28R to 28L or going from 28R to 36, which is, let's say, 3000ft shorter? All of the monkey-motion is the same. Pull the numbers out of the ACARS, put them in the box. Verify the numbers. Brief the runway and the departure, run the checklist. Someone up above mentioned something like "well, you don't have to move the heading bug (much)!" Ok, good call, we just saved half a second. What am I missing? Every runway is discrete, whether they're right next to each other and exactly the same length, or across the field, pointed in a totally different direction, and radically different in length.

I mean maybe in the charter days it would have made a difference for me (although I wonder whether that would even still be true). Like we could have said "we have the performance for the short one, we can obviously take the long one that goes in the same direction and has the same winds", esp. since we were radar power every time. But with de-rated power and runway-dependent SIDs, I just cannot workout exactly what you're pointing at when you suggest that they "should have been faster" because they were told to maybe expect a runway change. It takes how long it takes.
 
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