The procedures Lufthansa have are literally what the FAA suggested to foreign carriers do after the Asiana crash but okay this isn’t worth the energy or time. You are right and we are all wrong.
Got a source?
You can't say "you are right and we are all wrong" without a supporting link. I'm not aware of
IMC separation for a visual backed up by an ILS as a mitigation for Asiana under "Recommendations" part of the accident report. I've copy/pasted it for your reference.
Sure, they were brought in a little high, but at the end of the day they DID get on the path, and then completely effed it up when the PF thought the power would come alive from throttle hold mode (at idle) and hold the airplane in speed mode. Vref of 137 and no one is watching the airspeed go to 130. Then 125. Then 120. Then 115. Then 110.
Here is the recommendation section................
4. Recommendations
As a result of this investigation, the National Transportation Safety Board makes the
following new safety recommendations:
To the Federal Aviation Administration:
Require Boeing to develop enhanced 777 training that will improve flight crew
understanding of autothrottle modes and automatic activation system logic
through improved documentation, courseware, and instructor training. (A-14-37)
Once the enhanced Boeing 777 training has been developed, as requested in
Safety Recommendation A-14-37, require operators and training providers to
provide this training to 777 pilots. (A-14-38)
Require Boeing to revise its 777 Flight Crew Training Manual stall protection
demonstration to include an explanation and demonstration of the circumstances
in which the autothrottle does not provide low speed protection. (A-14-39)
Once the revision to the Boeing 777 Flight Crew Training Manual has been
completed, as requested in Safety Recommendation A-14-39, require operators
and training providers to incorporate the revised stall protection demonstration in
their training. (A-14-40)
Convene an expert panel (including members with expertise in human factors,
training, and flight operations) to evaluate methods for training flight crews to
understand the functionality of automated systems for flightpath management,
identify the most effective training methods, and revise training guidance for
operators in this area. (A-14-41)
Convene a special certification design review of how the Boeing 777 automatic
flight control system controls airspeed and use the results of that evaluation to
develop guidance that will help manufacturers improve the intuitiveness of
existing and future interfaces between flight crews and autoflight systems.
(A-14-42)
Task a panel of human factors, aviation operations, and aircraft design specialists,
such as the Avionics Systems Harmonization Working Group, to develop design
requirements for context-dependent low energy alerting systems for airplanes
engaged in commercial operations. (A-14-43)
Conduct research that examines the injury potential to occupants in accidents with
significant lateral forces, and if the research deems it necessary, implement
regulations to mitigate the hazards identified. (A-14-44)
NTSB Aircraft Accident Report
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Conduct research to identify the mechanism that produces high thoracic spinal
injuries in commercial aviation accidents, and if the research deems it necessary,
implement regulations to mitigate the hazards identified. (A-14-45)
Analyze, in conjunction with slide/raft manufacturers, the information obtained in
this accident investigation and evaluate the adequacy of slide and slide/raft
certification standards and test methods specified in Federal Aviation
Administration regulations and guidance materials. If appropriate, modify
certification standards and test methods for future slide and slide/raft design based
on the results of this evaluation. (A-14-46)
Work with the Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting Working Group and equipment
manufacturers to develop and distribute more specific policies and guidance about
when, how, and where to use the high-reach extendable turret’s unique
capabilities. (A-14-47)
Once the minimum staffing level has been developed by the Aircraft Rescue and
Firefighting (ARFF) Working Group, as requested in Safety Recommendation
A-14-60, amend 14 Code of Federal Regulations 139.319(j) to require a
minimum ARFF staffing level that would allow exterior firefighting and rapid
entry into an airplane to perform interior firefighting and rescue of passengers and
crewmembers. (A-14-48)
Work with the Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting (ARFF) Working Group to
develop and distribute policy guidance and training materials to ensure that all
airport and mutual aid firefighting officers placed in command at the scene of an
aircraft accident have at least a minimum level of ARFF training. (A-14-49)
Issue a CertAlert to all Part 139 airports to distribute the information contained in
the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) legal interpretation of 14 Code of
Federal Regulations 139.319 that requires all personnel assigned to aircraft rescue
and firefighting duties to meet the initial and recurrent training and live-fire drill
requirements and clarify how the FAA will enforce this regulation. (A-14-50)
Conduct a special inspection of San Francisco International Airport’s emergency
procedures manual and work closely with the airport to ensure that the airport
meets its obligations under Part 139.325. (A-14-51)
To Asiana Airlines:
Reinforce, through your pilot training programs, flight crew adherence to standard
operating procedures involving making inputs to the operation of autoflight
system controls on the Boeing 777 mode control panel and the performance of
related callouts. (A-14-52)
NTSB Aircraft Accident Report
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Revise your flight instructor operating experience (OE) qualification criteria to
ensure that all instructor candidates are supervised and observed by a more
experienced instructor during OE or line training until the new instructor
demonstrates proficiency in the instructor role. (A-14-53)
Issue guidance in the Boeing 777 Pilot Operating Manual that after disconnecting
the autopilot on a visual approach, if flight director guidance is not being
followed, both flight director switches should be turned off. (A-14-54)
Modify your automation policy to provide for more manual flight, both in training
and in line operations, to improve pilot proficiency. (A-14-55)
To Boeing:
Revise the Boeing 777 Flight Crew Operating Manual to include a specific
statement that when the autopilot is off and both flight director switches are
turned off, the autothrottle mode goes to speed (SPD) mode and maintains the
mode control panel-selected speed. (A-14-56)
Using the guidance developed by the low energy alerting system panel created in
accordance with Safety Recommendation A-14-43, develop and evaluate a
modification to Boeing wide-body automatic flight control systems to help ensure
that the aircraft energy state remains at or above the minimum desired energy
condition during any portion of the flight. (A-14-57)
To the Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting Working Group:
Work with the Federal Aviation Administration and equipment manufacturers to
develop and distribute more specific policies and guidance about when, how, and
where to use the high-reach extendable turret’s unique capabilities. (A-14-58)
Work with medical and medicolegal professional organizations to develop and
distribute guidance on task prioritization for responding aircraft rescue and
firefighting (ARFF) personnel that includes recommended best practices to avoid
striking or rolling over seriously injured or deceased persons with ARFF vehicles
in a mass casualty situation. (A-14-59)
Develop a minimum aircraft rescue and firefighting staffing level that would
allow exterior firefighting and rapid entry into an airplane to perform interior
firefighting and rescue of passengers and crewmembers. (A-14-60)
Develop and distribute, in conjunction with the Federal Aviation Administration,
guidance and training materials to ensure that all airport and mutual aid
firefighting officers placed in command at the scene of an aircraft accident have at
least a minimum level of aircraft rescue and firefighting training. (A-14-61)
NTSB Aircraft Accident Report
133
To the City and County of San Francisco:
Routinely integrate the use of all San Francisco Fire Department medical and
firefighting vehicles in future disaster drills and preparatory exercises. (A-14-62)
Implement solutions to the communications deficiencies identified in ICF
International’s after-action report as soon as practicable. (A-14-63)
Acting Chairman Hart and Members Sumwalt, Rosekind, and Weener filed the
following statements.
BY THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
CHRISTOPHER A. HART ROBERT L. SUMWALT
Acting Chairman Member
MARK R. ROSEKIND
Member
EARL F. WEENER
Member
Adopted: June 24, 2014
F'ing pilots, man 
