No doubt.
Keep receipts of the supplicant after the administration ends. I’ll have lots of questions.
“The F-47 will specialize in the “Split S” maneuver where it sees warfare and makes a quick 180 and claims bone spurs”
Oh, Boeing
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No doubt.
Keep receipts of the supplicant after the administration ends. I’ll have lots of questions.
“The F-47 will specialize in the “Split S” maneuver where it sees warfare and makes a quick 180 and claims bone spurs”
Skåning
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Will it marry eastern european women too?
NovemberEcho
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Tbf we already had a T-6 as well
Pilot Fighter
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Unless it’s going to get called Thunderbolt III. Which is also blah.
NovemberEcho
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“All I got was this plane and impeached twice”
///AMG
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I'd say BCA (to include mil "derivatives") is on a different planet compared to BDS. Two totally different companies, under one umbrella. STL still takes a lot of pride in their work, and they generally get what they need. Fundamental things like what you bill your hours to are even completely different between the two. To your point, the T-7 and some recent "aftermarket" F/A-18 mods have gone a little sideways at times, and that is a cautionary tale. But i am cautiously optimistic about this one. It has been a "thing" for a while now, though not officially under contract until now. This is EMD, so the FRP cycle will be its own thing, and isn't a given (see A-12). But it is about the biggest good news for the defense side of the company since the early 1990s (which would have been MacAir). This will also get subb'd to all the other big guys. Boeing built components for the F-22, and continue to provide sustainment products. Northrop Grumman builds the whole F/A-18 aft of the wingline. That'll all shake out for the FRP contract.
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I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
Just because I hadda pause and think about it:
BDS is not a k-pop band (Boeing Defense Services, sibling to Boeing Commercial Aircraft, and operating out of St Louis, where the dude in my avatar was counter-protesting)
FRP is not a Serbian political group (full-rate production)
EMD (engineering and manufacturing development, where green-belts aspire to become black-belts and Quality Assurance gets sent out for sandwiches)
BDS is not a k-pop band (Boeing Defense Services, sibling to Boeing Commercial Aircraft, and operating out of St Louis, where the dude in my avatar was counter-protesting)
FRP is not a Serbian political group (full-rate production)
EMD (engineering and manufacturing development, where green-belts aspire to become black-belts and Quality Assurance gets sent out for sandwiches)
BEEF SUPREME
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I don’t really know anything about it but without even using Google Fu, the refueler/tanker debacle comes to mind. Not sure if AF1 falls under the defense side, it’s probably civilian with secret add ons but that’s gone pretty pear shaped as well. I don’t dislike Boeing but I am very disappointed with the product I fly and with their business practices affecting my career progression.
It might not sound like it but I really want Boeing to succeed since our masters have put all our eggs in BA’s basket. It’s just that whenever I peek under the covers in even the slightest it’s very apparent they won’t succeed.
712AL, 732AL and 729AL are nearing or are at completion so we *should* be flying those soon. 782HA is on its 6th or 7th pre purchase flight in CHS. Air Group *should* take delivery soon. If they can keep that up for a whole 2-3 quarters we just may see some seniority progression. Nothing we have any control over it would just be nice if Boeing could actually do their one single job: deliver the product on time or even at all.
Boeing F/A-18 Hornet and Boeing F-15C Eagle, do not sound right at all, still, to this day.
///AMG
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The placards behind the seat and in the wing roots (visible when the leading edge flaps are down) still say "McDonnell Douglas" interestingly enough.
Lawman
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Apache and Chinook still have parts with Hughes and Vertol stamps on them to this day.
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///AMG
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Mesa and PA would do that. Classic whirlybird identity crisis
BEEF SUPREME
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Used google:
F15EX had major issues overbudget and delayed
MQ-25 is over budget and years delayed
B52H reengine and electrical system project is overbudget and delayed.
V22 also not good
That was one webpage but I've been worked hard and put away wet on reserve all week so I'm going to bed.
///AMG
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You can google exactly every major weapon system program in the last 60 years and find similar data. Looking at just fighters, F-111, F-15, F-14, F/A-18 (to a significantly lesser extent), F-22, F-35. All became successful in spite of cost overruns and delays. MQ-25 is a weird one, because it was a solution looking for a problem that doesnt exist, IMO. Guess my point being that every single major acquisition program i can think of, save the F-16 and the F/A-18E/F/G, have come in overbudget and delayed (oh and maybe the U-2A, and a handful of early programs in the 50's)
Lawman
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Go back to the late 90s and there is no shortage of buzz word filled negative GAO reports and congressional inquiries into the Super Hornet accusing it of being a massive failure.
Historically the most successful multirole fighter ever deployed on a carrier but it was second place at being the jet to get a cool movie with shirtless pilots playing sports, so it’s obviously a failure.
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