Officially Winter

JaceTheAce said:
I figured I'd let you drive my car... haha... I HAVE to be riding with you on your run. It'd be so much fun...granny drifto on Devil's Lake :D
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You're not even gona know what to think of it. :D Crap, I was just out for almost an hour tonight messing around at 1 in the morning. haha
 
Andrew_VT said:
Is ND one of those states that doesnt allow studded winter tires? Gotta love studs, definitely gives you the advantage when rally racing in empty icy parking lots, plus at night it's cool to see the sparks fly!
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Yeah ND allows studs but my understanding is MN doesn't. So drive to East Grand Forks for dinner/cabelas/whatever else there is to do in EGF and you risk getting a ticket.
 
CAFFEINE said:
Yeah ND allows studs but my understanding is MN doesn't. So drive to East Grand Forks for dinner/cabelas/whatever else there is to do in EGF and you risk getting a ticket.
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I think it'd be pretty easy to get away with it, unless a cop was outside and heard your noisy tires on the pavement. But if caught, I'm sure the ticket would be costly since traffic tickets in MN are so high.
 
I was just out driving. The Camry does really well in snow, so I was just fine. It made me really want a beater car though to drift around... :)
 
UAL747400 said:
Yeah, the bigger wheels will make stopping harder. Not as bad as the morons that put 20's on their car and don't upgrade the brakes. :insane:
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nothing annoys me more. well maybe people who drive like lunatics in the winter because they have a 4x4 which means you can stop better too, right?

LOL
 
JaceTheAce said:
Yeah, talk about rotational mass!
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Exactly! I find it interesting that the rotating mass of the wheel has more of an affect on acceleration and braking than the weight of the friggen vehicle. One of my friends who has a camaro went from mid 13s to low 12s just changing the damn wheels. He tried out both wheels at the last autocross event he was at and he dropped off a few seconds changing to the smaller lighter wheels. Yes, camaros can autocross Jason. ;)
 
BuickCFI said:
nothing annoys me more. well maybe people who drive like lunatics in the winter because they have a 4x4 which means you can stop better too, right?

LOL
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I also love it when a people say "I need a 4x4 for the snow and ice" when in reality it becomes a female-driver-death-trap as it's almost always driven in two wheel drive to the rear wheels (unless it's AWD or full-time 4x4)...along with the SUV being so top heavy that it's much easier for it to get up on 2 wheels...let alone the $hitty handling it has due to it being on a heavy truck chassis with rear or sometimes (God forbid) both rear AND front leaf-spring suspension. If anyone wants a vehicle for daily driving on the roads it would be an AWD car...like a Subaru, Audi Quattro, or 325xi BMW...or if you are one of those who can afford a Cadillac Escalade (which seems to be the average debt-hungry population nowadays...brought to you in part by home equity loans or 8 year car loans) consider a Mercedes E320 4Matic stationwagon. Heck, even the H2 Hummer costs more than the E320 4Matic! But certain people are affected by the typical American automotive CULTURAL norms that harbor their masculine and penile endowment insecurities...so they end up choosing the penis extension F-350 or Hummer H2. :insane:
 
UAL747400 said:
Exactly! I find it interesting that the rotating mass of the wheel has more of an affect on acceleration and braking than the weight of the friggen vehicle. One of my friends who has a camaro went from mid 13s to low 12s just changing the damn wheels. He tried out both wheels at the last autocross event he was at and he dropped off a few seconds changing to the smaller lighter wheels. Yes, camaros can autocross Jason. ;)
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I've seen a few autocross - in fact there is a guy with a modified 2006 Mustang GT from Winnipeg who attends the Grand Forks and Fargo autocrosses... he ends up ranking really high. It's all about the driver in that case ;)...j/k......well, partially haha. :insane:
 
JaceTheAce said:
I also love it when a people say "I need a 4x4 for the snow and ice" when in reality it becomes a female-driver-death-trap as it's almost always driven in two wheel drive to the rear wheels (unless it's AWD or full-time 4x4)...along with the SUV being so top heavy that it's much easier for it to get up on 2 wheels...let alone the $hitty handling it has due to it being on a heavy truck chassis with rear or sometimes (God forbid) both rear AND front leaf-spring suspension. If anyone wants a vehicle for daily driving on the roads it would be an AWD car...like a Subaru, Audi Quattro, or 325xi BMW...or if you are one of those who can afford a Cadillac Escalade (which seems to be the average debt-hungry population nowadays...brought to you in part by home equity loans or 8 year car loans) consider a Mercedes E320 4Matic stationwagon. Heck, even the H2 Hummer costs more than the E320 4Matic! But certain people are affected by the typical American automotive CULTURAL norms that harbor their masculine and penile endowment insecurities...so they end up choosing the penis extension F-350 or Hummer H2. :insane:
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That's my theory on why so many people drive these behemiths. They turn like crap, stop like crap, and accelerate like crap. WHICH THEY SHOULD!!!! It's a damn truck!!!! Why anyone would put up with that on a daily basis has to be because they are insecure and need to compensate for it. I get pretty aggravated whenever I look at new trucks and SUVs today. They're HALF as capable as they're older counterparts. People bought them to compensate for said insecurities and then complained about them because they drove like a truck. DUH!!!!!!!!!!:mad: When the day comes when I need a truck, I'm gona have to buy something from the 80s or 90s or buy the heavy duty stuff. Look at all the midsize SUVs, ALL of them are soccermom vans. The trailblazer is a ###### joke compared to the blazer I had. Mine had a puny 2.8 and still towed 800 pounds more than the new trailblazer. Whatever, I'll stop before I get too into this. It just annoys the hell out of me when a lot of people buy things that I like, complain about them and then they get pampered or whatever and then you have the bastardized abominations we have on the road now called trucks and SUVs. Sadly this is working it's way into almost everything. 4 door charger???????!?!?!?! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: 2 and a half ton BMW M5 that is no where near as capable as the e39 M5 and dang near drives like a 7 series!?!?!?! :mad::mad:

Sigh....
 
UAL747400 said:
That's my theory on why so many people drive these behemiths. They turn like crap, stop like crap, and accelerate like crap. WHICH THEY SHOULD!!!! It's a damn truck!!!! Why anyone would put up with that on a daily basis has to be because they are insecure and need to compensate for it. I get pretty aggravated whenever I look at new trucks and SUVs today. They're HALF as capable as they're older counterparts. People bought them to compensate for said insecurities and then complained about them because they drove like a truck. DUH!!!!!!!!!!:mad: When the day comes when I need a truck, I'm gona have to buy something from the 80s or 90s or buy the heavy duty stuff. Look at all the midsize SUVs, ALL of them are soccermom vans. The trailblazer is a ###### joke compared to the blazer I had. Mine had a puny 2.8 and still towed 800 pounds more than the new trailblazer. Whatever, I'll stop before I get too into this. It just annoys the hell out of me when a lot of people buy things that I like, complain about them and then they get pampered or whatever and then you have the bastardized abominations we have on the road now called trucks and SUVs. Sadly this is working it's way into almost everything. 4 door charger???????!?!?!?! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: 2 and a half ton BMW M5 that is no where near as capable as the e39 M5 and dang near drives like a 7 series!?!?!?! :mad::mad:

Sigh....
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haha yeah I'm with you on this... even with all the lightweight "improvements" they did on it like the aluminum chassis, the E60 M5 still weighs over 4000 lbs!
 
The 80's bronco may look and drive like a badass but they are plauged with problems from the beginning. The bronco was a good desing but Ford is Ford and well they build crap.

-farva
 
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