New Wreckage found in AF447 crash

A French judge recently filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France over the crash.
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Yeah, because we all know without a shadow of doubt that it was AIr Frances fault. Idiots.
 
mshunter said:
Yeah, because we all know without a shadow of doubt that it was AIr Frances fault. Idiots.
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Yeah, well, their justice system is set up a little bit differently than ours and if I recall correctly that is a typical step in the fact finding process. Then again, they might just be idiots. :dunno:
 
SteveC said:
Yeah, well, their justice system is set up a little bit differently than ours and if I recall correctly that is a typical step in the fact finding process. Then again, they might just be idiots. :dunno:
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I wouldn't give them to much credit.
 
titansox said:
I wouldn't give them to much credit.
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I saw in the paper the other day they were launching another search for wreckage with some new sonar and undersea robots. Hope they can find more information. BTW, Did anyone catch the NOVA special on this? Pretty interesting stuff and a well done show.
 
This crash creeps me out more than any other crash that has taken place in my time...I find the SLD theory to be the most credible, but they are just that...theories. Personally, I don't think we'll ever know what really happened with the lack of CVR and FDR data. The boxes have probably turned into shark food by now. The NOVA special was pretty good, I believe it's now on youtube if they didn't take it down for legal reasons yet...
 
A150K said:
Personally, I don't think we'll ever know what really happened with the lack of CVR and FDR data. The boxes have probably turned into shark food by now.
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If they never find them, then, maybe, that will be some incentive to find an affordable way to be able to stream that type of data for future flights.

canadian_atc said:
American 587... That is all
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You know, when the news sources said that there were no survivors, I guess they miss one... you! I want to know more, please. :D
 
SteveC said:
Yeah, well, their justice system is set up a little bit differently than ours and if I recall correctly that is a typical step in the fact finding process. Then again, they might just be idiots. :dunno:
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Much different. So different that I have no idea how it works, to tell you the truth. The difference between a civil law system (France) and a common law system (United States/the UK) is like the difference between a banana and a spoon that's too big.
 
titansox said:
Just out of curiosity, whats the correlation between the French having an odd justice system and my crappy use of the English language? I don't see the irony there :dunno:
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Lol you were saying don't give the French any credit, the irony is I wouldn't give you any either, based on your sentence. All in good fun my friend.
 
seagull said:
You do a "doublet" to the rudder on ANY transport and it will fail.
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Yes well it's not unfounded, they suspect the aircraft impacted flat on it's belly, and the vertical fin was found completely intact separate from the crash site, quite similar to the 587 accident...
 
I realize it's not an "AH HA" moment when you link these together, but it is a plausible scenario when you consider the history of the Airbus fleet...

American 587
Airbus A300
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Vertical Fin separation leading to loss of control

Air Transat 961
Airbus A310
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Air France 447
Airbus A330
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I'm hardly the first person to propose this scenario, BUT to me it seems so far the most plausible scenario, the messages of fluctuations in airspeed could be the result of an out of control aircraft, at least I haven't read anywhere that it couldn't be.

It seems an interesting coincidence at least that the vertical fin appears to have snapped nearly clean off the fuselage, with the exception of a small piece of rudder (broke off before the vertical fin snapped?)

The BEA has said wreckage suggests the aircraft landed "on it's belly" and I've read in other news reports quoting them as saying they landed with little forward momentum... I apologize I can't quote this, it's been a couple of years, and may be incorrect... assume for a moment that this is the case...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fi_l5zuU2g&feature=player_embedded
Reports are that AAL587 landed in a similar fashion...


I know this is all a stretch, but in my limited education on aircraft accidents it seems a plausible scenario at least...
 
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