New "controller" at KJFK Tower...

I personally do not think that anyone was in danger, but I did not feel that it was wise. But the FAA took a long time (2 weeks) to take notice)

This was on youtube for quite a bit.
 
It wasn't a kid. The controller just had a sore throat that made him talk a little funny sometimes and he had some fun with it.

How about if, instead, it was only the controller and he did his best Foster Brooks impersonation with the same result: nothing happened? I have never, ever heard a controller speak in anything other than a flat, unaccented, completely cogent voice. (:sarcasm:) I wish the nooz would drive by a little faster sometimes. :whatever:
 
Way to back one of your own NATCA

The union representing air traffic controllers condemned the workers' behavior.
"It is not indicative of the highest professional standards that controllers set for themselves and exceed each and everyday in the advancement of aviation safety," the National Air Traffic Controllers Association said in a statement.
 
Brian Z said:
Way to back one of your own NATCA

The union representing air traffic controllers condemned the workers' behavior.
"It is not indicative of the highest professional standards that controllers set for themselves and exceed each and everyday in the advancement of aviation safety," the National Air Traffic Controllers Association said in a statement.
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People banter the word "professionalism" around so much, it's probably another of the most inappropriate, misused words in the English vocabulary.

Most importantly, they throw "safety" in there as well. OK, let's say the pilots and air traffic control used "adios" over the airways when we all know English is the appropriate language to use and to NOT use English over the airways would be "unprofessional" as well.

. . .and to even "comment" about this on this thread and condone this type of behavior would be "unprofessional" to those who believe it's okay for this to occur. . .

. . .nevermind, my medication is kicking in now. Disregard.

(I wrote the FAA. Guess you can tell I'm upset.)
 
The thing that bothers me the most about this incident ( besides the obviously overeaction and fear mongering being done by the media), is the fact that the FAA will likely demand to know who was flying the Jetblue and Aeromexico so they can go after the pilots as well, for not reporting this. Some numbnuts will remember he was on jetblue flight one seventy whatever, and will have his attorney sue saying that by engaging in this banter, the pilots, controllers and airline put his family at risk. Somebody needs to take us (Americans) by the back of the head, stick our heads in a toilet and slam the lid, maybe that'll get our attention. I hate what we as a society have become, sad, no one seems to have any common sense, or ability to enjoy what life has to offer any more, whe are way too uptight, and living in a culture of fear. This should have never even made the news. I am waiting for the day that a headline reads, "Person snapped, kills reporter who destroyed his life by twisting facts for attention and ratings."
 
Much over reaction. At this rate, it won't be long until visits to the control tower are off limits and pilots are given a phone number to call after landing for stating a casual "good afternoon" over the radio.
 
Nigel Croker said:
This should have never even made the news.
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I have no problem with it making the news, but it should have been a nice human interest story "Cute Kid Looks Forward to ATC Career" would have been a good headline.

It is just way to easy to take a soundbite out of context, and present something that is slanted, too easy to do when the public knows nothing about the subject. My first CFI told me 10 years ago "Kid, first rule, don't believe anything you ever see on television about aviation."

I'm almost afraid to have my real name in the letter I'll be mailing to the FAA, for fear that they'll look up my certificate number. Guess I'll have to have on of my friends send it.
 
better watch out we might all be on a liveatc.net archive tapes saying somthing like "over to departure, thanks for the help." God knows why say 7 words when 3 will suffice totally unprofessional, and heaven forbid you are caught chuckling while reading back a clearence, MSNBC will be demanding the FAA yank your certs.
 
Anyone see the new MSNBC online poll....I love the first two choices.......IDIOTS:mad:

Question on air-traffic-control

How would you feel if you were aboard one of the planes that was directed by a child at JFK airport on Feb. 17?

  • <INPUT id=pollOption_85759 class="pollOption radioInput" value=85759 type=radio name=voteInPoll_19546><LABEL for=pollOption_85759>Enraged</LABEL>
  • <INPUT id=pollOption_85760 class="pollOption radioInput" value=85760 type=radio name=voteInPoll_19546><LABEL for=pollOption_85760>Terrified</LABEL>
  • <INPUT id=pollOption_85761 class="pollOption radioInput" value=85761 type=radio name=voteInPoll_19546><LABEL for=pollOption_85761>Meh. Nothing happened and he was being supervised.</LABEL>
  • <INPUT id=pollOption_85762 class="pollOption radioInput" value=85762 type=radio name=voteInPoll_19546><LABEL for=pollOption_85762>None of the above; I will explain below.</LABEL>
 
While there may not be any "harm" in a couple of radio calls....how long was the kid in the tower? Would you not be distracted by your child running around your office. Would the other controllers not be.

Even if not sitting on your lap making radio calls, just him being in the tower is a distraction. Your attention would always be somewhat diverted.

Is this being blown out of proportion? Yes.....but it was still pretty damn stupid.
 
It was probably all part of some "take your son/daughter to work day" over the school vacation.

I'm sure he had superiors that either A) Approved of what he did, or at least B) overlooked everything after the kid was on the frequency.

You don't just "bring your kid into the tower and let him talk" without your boss knowing whats going on before hand.
 
I remember talking to ATC from a cockpit when I was little. I was in Salt Lake City sometime between 1996-1999. Get on that, FAA.
 
I thought that the whole thing was cute. With that said, are you guys really that out of touch? Everything in this society is based on the appearance of professionalism and the assumption of control. Everyone in the aviation industry may think nothing of this sort of thing because we know things that people outside the industry don't. We know how the system works, and we all have confidence in that system. People outside the aviation industry know nothing about aviation, or how anything works within the system. So, in order to make the flying public feel comfortable we put up a front of professionalism. We have to wear ties to work, speak proper english(some of us:insane:). It is not a matter of how we feel, but how the public feel. As harmless as this may have been, it has decreased the confidence of the flying public. They rely on us to be professional at all times. You may get upset by my post, but this industry is about more than you or I. We demand that they treat us like professionals, lets be professional. Just my .02.
 
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