Navy blasphemy

[Ian_J]

Please don't turn this thread into anything other than lighthearted banter about nothing particularly serious. I like the Air Force, I love Army Helo guys and the Marines are kick butt talented as one would expect. The Coast Guard guys are a bit weak but what do you expect? Seriously, the Coast Guard Pilots do some pretty insane flying.

Fly your individual flag and be proud of who you are - nobody can take that from you .

Now back to having fun...

Nothing feels better than some man-love from calcapt!

 

[Bumblebee]

Please don't turn this thread into anything other than lighthearted banter about nothing particularly serious. I like the Air Force, I love Army Helo guys and the Marines are kick butt talented as one would expect. The Coast Guard guys are a bit weak but what do you expect? Seriously, the Coast Guard Pilots do some pretty insane flying.

Fly your individual flag and be proud of who you are - nobody can take that from you .

Now back to having fun...

Nothing feels better than some man-love from calcapt!

some TOUGHmanLOVE

 

[stesta5074]

I never got the chance to serve in the Air Force, but I can still dress and act like them!

www.gocivilairpatrol.com




PS: I'm actually going to join

 

[woodreau]

I want a Phoenix missile. I instruct in a Tomahawk, think we could rig up a way to mount it on that?

I've never had the opportunity to shoot Phoenix missiles, but I've had the opportunity to lob some Tomahawks and SM-2s. Don't know how hard it is to get all the prerequisites done to actually shoot a Phoenix, but Tomahawks are pretty easy to shoot - make sure you get the target package download from GBS, upload it into the Tomahawks, get the ship into the launch box at the right time, give SWG-3 launch consent and let the computer do the shooting.

As far as SM-2s, I am 4 of 4 for killing drones.

Tomahawk vs. Phoenix - Tomahawks get a bigger bang for the buck - even if it isn't one of those "special" Tomahawks.
And as Hacker says - AMRAAM vs Phoenix - I'd take AMRAAM any day.
SM-2 vs Phoenix vs AMRAAM - I'll take SM2 - nothing like enforcing the Iraqi no-fly zone (in those days) from 120 miles away.

I remember the day when someone told me the Tomcat was dropping air to ground ordnance and I basically called them a liar. I know nothing about air-to-ground stuff other than what my old A-6 buddies told me. Do you know if the F-14 was even a capable platform to deliver ground stuff? That part of it's life is a complete mystery to me.

I did get to observe an F-14 do a bomb run on San Clemente, it was a neat thing to see - basically I remember our general impressions that the F-14 should stick to air-to-air and that we'd never use an F-14 or the Navy (5-inch gunfire support) for that matter for - for anything involving "danger close." I'll take 155/MLRS/Marine Tac-Air/A-10 for that stuff.

But the F-14 was just starting to get into the air-to-ground role and maybe they got a lot better before they retired them. The gunfire mission - the Navy's so bad/awful/abyssmal at it and I've seen a lot of ships that can't hit the broad side of a barn in good weather with the 5-inch peashooter.

 

[MikeD]

And as Hacker says - AMRAAM vs Phoenix - I'd take AMRAAM any day.

But you guys are comparing two different generations of technology, equally. It's like saying you'd take an F-16 over an F-4 air-to-air any day, for dogfight performance.

 

[derg]

But you guys are comparing two different generations of technology, equally. It's like saying you'd take an F-16 over an F-4 air-to-air any day, for dogfight performance.

MD-90 or 737-800 in a dogfight? What do ya think?

 

[woodreau]

The Marines always claim to be first in. But they had the Air Force bomb the crap out of the area in the weeks before they went in.

I think it's called "shaping the battlefield"

 

[CaptBill]

MD-90 or 737-800 in a dogfight? What do ya think?

I think the 737-800 could take the MD-90 unless the forward galley ovens were full of heavy entrees and chocolate chip cookies. The snacks-only 737-500 might be the best overall choice here. Just remember what Viper said: "Don't descend below the hard deck"

 

[granlistillo]

But you guys are comparing two different generations of technology, equally. It's like saying you'd take an F-16 over an F-4 air-to-air any day, for dogfight performance.

25 years ago in a different life at my first enlisted guard unit that was the ftu or rtu for the f-4 and F-16 and there was quite bit of overlap. Two of the F-4's were migkillers... Anywhoo, a lot of whippersnappers in the viper got their asses handed to them by the rhino flown by vietnam vet ltcs in air to air. Now air to mud with that center line pod the safest place to be was whereever they were aiming as they always missed. Saw f-4s, A-7s, F-16s and A-10 on the range one day. The f4s sucked, f16 didn't fare that much better, the A-7 did all right. But those darn a-10s of yours. Shoot, they had this jeep tethered to a cable driving a circle at about 20 MPH and when the A-10s half rolled and let go of the blue 50 pounders and got three shacks. One of them sailed through the open window and marking smoke poured out of it for about 5 mins...:rotfl:

 

[fly22]

In my next life Im going to be a Naval aviator.

 

[N18040]

ITomahawks are pretty easy to shoot - make sure you get the target package download from GBS, upload it into the Tomahawks, get the ship into the launch box at the right time, give SWG-3 launch consent and let the computer do the shooting.

Wow that sounds a lot more complicated than my Tomahawk is. All I need is a quick pre-flight, then I hop in, start her up, do a mag check and away we go.

 

[H46Bubba]

That was just replenishment.

Oh you are sooo wrong about that. Most military vehicles and equipment are transported on RoRO (Roll on/Roll off) ships that are part of the MSC. All that stuff is loaded on trains at all major bases and then head to the nearest major seaports, where all the equipment is loaded onto these giant ships and then off to wherever the nearest worls conflict is.

 

[Cruise]

Anchors away!

Ouch....if you're truly a squid, you would know it's: Anchors Aweigh. :yar:

I'm not Navy...but I did get a paycheck from the Dept. of the Navy for a little while.

 

[Hacker15e]

But you guys are comparing two different generations of technology, equally. It's like saying you'd take an F-16 over an F-4 air-to-air any day, for dogfight performance.

That doesn't ever seem to occur to Tomcat fanboyz who think the Phoenix is "awwwsum" and the greatest evar.

 

[woodreau]

Oh you are sooo wrong about that. Most military vehicles and equipment are transported on RoRO (Roll on/Roll off) ships that are part of the MSC. All that stuff is loaded on trains at all major bases and then head to the nearest major seaports, where all the equipment is loaded onto these giant ships and then off to wherever the nearest worls conflict is.

I think the numbers I got from the JPME were:
To move a heavy brigade - not even a single Army division = 5,000 C-141 sorties or 5 MSC ships.

they moved 9 divisions (36 brigades + 2 ACRs) to the gulf for the first war - if everything had to go via air - I think there wouldn't be any C-141/C-5s left in a flyable condition after it was all done.

I'll give it to you - ships are slow - Now it would take those 5 ships about 3-4 weeks to get there from CONUS, how long would it take to generate 5,000 C-141 sorties? People are easy to move, equipment and supplies a lot harder.

 

[ChasenSFO]

This thread is just leaking with testosterone. Awesome.

 

[Stone Cold]

This thread is just leaking with testosterone. Awesome.

It's just some normal, friendly, inter-service rivalry talk. Nobody's getting upset, or calling names...unlike the usual teen forums on here.


Sit down, Junior...the adults are talking. :insane::laff::beer::bandit:

 

[fholbert]

This thread is just leaking with testosterone. Awesome.

GO NAVY AIR!!!

 

[fholbert]

Go Army!

 

[fholbert]

Go NAVY!!!

 

[fholbert]

Oh you are sooo wrong about that. Most military vehicles and equipment are transported on RoRO (Roll on/Roll off) ships that are part of the MSC. All that stuff is loaded on trains at all major bases and then head to the nearest major seaports, where all the equipment is loaded onto these giant ships and then off to wherever the nearest worls conflict is.

Like this roll off?