granlistillo
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fixed it for yaAnd it was a Russian AN-124 that brought that EP-3 back to the states.![]()
fixed it for yaAnd it was a Russian AN-124 that brought that EP-3 back to the states.![]()
When was the last time you saw a US carrier sunk? Airfields can be strafed, rocketed, mortared bombed and overrun. Not many orders to Bien Hoa nowdays, no?When's the last time you saw an Air Force base sink?
right... There are bad nicknames, and good nicknamesWell at least it is a name based callsign. My favorite one in our squadron was "Roca". Roca is the major manufacturer of urinals and toilets in Spain. One night after a few too many bevvies Roca decided to wash his face in some place other than the sink. he he he
right... There are bad nicknames, and good nicknames![]()
If we want to have a serious no BS discussion about military platforms and weapon systems and how they compare using hard data, let's start a thread and run with it - this thread isn't it.
Got it -- I'll leave facts, logic, and rational thought out of future posts I make, and instead just stick to emotion and hyperbole.
Many are name based or play on the name- some very UN PC (MJG's probably isn't too PC)Mostly as un-PC as possible on the Navy side I have found. Seems like the AF gets a little more into the cool callsigns, but maybe that has just been the limited exposure that I have had with them.
When was the last time you saw a US carrier sunk?
touche
The "USS America". I got my one COD trap and Catstroke on its last operational cruise in early 95' pretty cool for a land based NFO.
But the more precise term is "scuttling" vice "sinking", and it was scuttled after being tested from all sorts of weapons without "sinking".
wow...last time I saw her was in the IO near the Persian Gulf...my buddy was on a helo squadron (AW/SAR) and I was on The (s)kitty. We had hooked up and were sailing within sight of one another...kind of sad, but life goes on I guess!Since you asked, May 2006.
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Since you asked, May 2006.
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I know you don't like the Phoenix (based on multiple posts), and it has failed in its only combat use.
Regardless of the actual number, the Phoenix missile has claimed kills, just not in the two times it was actually used in combat with the US Navy...
Might want to check out Tom Cooper's research then. How accurate or not, he shows about 60 kills with the AIM-54 by the Iranians, with the Tomcat claiming a total of 130-150 kills. Some folks doubt his research
That's an understatement.
His reputation among peer authors is not very good, mostly because very few of his claims can be verified and he refuses to show any of his source research.
I take anything he says, especially WRT Iranian Tomcats, with a grain of salt.
Regardless of the actual number, the Phoenix missile has claimed kills, just not in the two times it was actually used in combat with the US Navy...
Totally correct.. I meant USN, and referring to OP Southern Watch. I had to do two TAD at Eskan in 98 and 00 so just missed ya. Totally off subject but I always had to laugh at people that thought the "war" against Iraq started in 03...
The shooting started in ONW in 96... Then there was "Desert Fox" in 98 that I actually got to help plan (tiny tiny contribution). I only got one recon flight in the Gulf, but it was pretty hot that day. It was mostly Heavy caliber AAA (kinda like the old german 88s), against the strike packages followed by our guys killing the gun position.That's right, OSW and ONW. I believe from 99-03, over 1,000 AA attacks, 600 rockets and 60 SAM's launced at Coalition aircraft. Hacker or MikeD might have some insight to that. I knew the E-2C crew that had an SA-2 launched at them while in Kuwaiti airspace.
That's right, OSW and ONW. I believe from 99-03, over 1,000 AA attacks, 600 rockets and 60 SAM's launced at Coalition aircraft. Hacker or MikeD might have some insight to that. I knew the E-2C crew that had an SA-2 launched at them while in Kuwaiti airspace.