National Association of Airline Professionals (NAAP)

What if it everything works out fair and square?
Seniority is dovetail class and craft, work reg issues are worked out, the possibility of negotiated early out packages and move packages for both groups, significant pay raises for US and enhancements for AA group. An integrated agreement that truly has the best of both CBAs. NAAP group wants to ditch the TWU because they have blocked this very possibility. No reason given! What!? They do not have either group's best interest in mind. What possible good reason can they have to block our two groups from working out a deal? I would like to hear anybody's thought on that question.
This is not a disagreement between our two groups in any way. This is something the International is promoting, especially after the departure of 542's executive board. Nobody I have spoke to at AA harbors any ill will against anybody at US and to suggest that is just fiction. We will all become friends work together and share an office someday. Why would anybody want anything other than the very best for both groups as we come together as one office. That is the vision I believe the NAAP has for the future. Not under the yoke of the international paying dues to a group that has proven it does not have our best interests in mind. Blocking the very people, our local leaders, whom we have relied on in the past from working out a deal that is best for both groups.
 
burgh said:
Question for you AA guys on this blog, why do you not like the TWU since your "past" president was elected to the TWU International Board of Directors on was on the board for quit a while?
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Burgh,
This isn't about John Plowman. This is about the future of all the dispatchers at AA/US. The TWU was ok when they left us alone. Now they want to have their thumb on everything. I bet Danny used to deal with the company alone. I'm hearing they are in his hip pocket at every meeting now.

This is an old school industrial union. Time to move on for the betterment of our profession. W
 
Burgh,

Here is something for you to think about. Back in December I got a 4.3 percent raise as well as equity. Did you? No, you didn't. Did 542 do that to you? No! Did 545 do that to you? No! Then who screwed you over? The international, that's who.

So I ask, why do you like the TWU?
 
BigFellor said:
How much of a difference is there? Daylight here has 40-ish, afternoons 20-30-ish, and midnights are a complete mess. Midnights routinely have 10-16 red eyes plus 30-some flights to write for the morning shift since they calc out at or before morning folks come in. And the midnights also do that number of flights in 6-7 hours instead of 9.
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We have 8 hour shifts as you know. AMs have about 45-50 releases plus take about dozen or so from the midnight turnover. PMs release 35-40 plus take over whatever of the 45-50 from the AM shift is left over. Midnight desks vary. Some are as high as 50 and others around 40 plus whatever you take over from the PM shift turnover. The midnighters typically work up their releases over 2-3 hours except for the trancon midnighter. Midnight dispatchers set up several desks for the AM. Dispatchers also are responsible for swapping equipment at the outstations and putting in cancellation entries.
 
I have been indirectly affected by the current union goings on as well. However - I really don't feel a public forum is the best place to discuss the issue in detail. Same with contract negotiations. Just my opinion though.
 
Manniax,

While I don't disagree, the international has made it impossible. They are slinging the mud to Local 545 and they are inciting their members. We stand behind our board and we will not stand by while people who don't even know them attack them. These are our friends. They have found them guilty before any proper investigation has taken place.

How are you indirectly affected?
 
As I hear it from our union guys, 545 arranged a meeting with 542 a few months back. J.P. cxld at the last minute to go to CO for some other negotiations. Our guys (545) flew to DFW, had hotel rooms and a car and had to come back home. I was also told later on that J.P. read over both contracts and dropped a "combined contract" on the table for 545 without any input or discussion with 545. As I hear it J.P. did not stick around for a joint conversation on the "combined contract"!
 
burgh said:
As I hear it from our union guys, 545 arranged a meeting with 542 a few months back. J.P. cxld at the last minute to go to CO for some other negotiations. Our guys (545) flew to DFW, had hotel rooms and a car and had to come back home. I was also told later on that J.P. read over both contracts and dropped a "combined contract" on the table for 545 without any input or discussion with 545. As I hear it J.P. did not stick around for a joint conversation on the "combined contract"!
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Kinda funny how the story on the AA floor is that the Local 545 was presented numerous requests to discuss the transition agreement, the 545 refused to respond for months, and only finally responded to the 542's "best of" proposal with a carbon copy of their contract, with 100% US Airways sked. I'm smelling some serious bs from the 545.
 
Maybe you should be more specific Bruin and not so nebulous. There have been several issues. Which one do you speak of?

Is it the lawsuit? Is the amount of shares held back? Which one?
 
burgh said:
As I hear it from our union guys, 545 arranged a meeting with 542 a few months back. J.P. cxld at the last minute to go to CO for some other negotiations. Our guys (545) flew to DFW, had hotel rooms and a car and had to come back home. I was also told later on that J.P. read over both contracts and dropped a "combined contract" on the table for 545 without any input or discussion with 545. As I hear it J.P. did not stick around for a joint conversation on the "combined contract"!
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That's bs. The meeting with the company was canceled a week in advance. They never came down. I'll find the emails they shared with us.
 
Here is the update that was sent to us here at AA. It is clear that Plowman and Pascale cancelled negotiations a week ahead of time. Someone is not telling the truth up there....

AA UPDATE

February 19, 2014




Next week we had planned on meeting with the Company and representatives from US Air Dispatch (Local 545). Unfortunately, today, we requested through TWU International, that this meeting be cancelled. It is painfully apparent that both Dispatch groups are not on the same page with respect to a joint proposal for an integrated Agreement. Frank and I emailed the US Air Local leadership our draft proposal of what we believed an integrated proposal would look like on January 2, (approximately 7 weeks ago) and have received next to no feedback on our proposal including their statement that “we are not in agreement with the proposal that you submitted!” Statements like that are frustrating, especially when we have an opportunity to effect meaningful contractual changes for both groups.


We have attached our contract proposal to this update and ask that you take the time to review it and let us know what other changes you may like incorporated with the understanding that these are not Section 6 negotiations under the Railway Labor Act.


We are also asking that you keep this proposal strictly to yourself. The Company hasn’t seen it and we may yet make other changes to the document


Thanks for your understanding and support and please let us know if you have any questions.



Sincerely and Fraternally Yours,



John E. Plowman Frank Pascale
 

I was told by people who saw the J.P. proposal that any reference to 545 was crossed out and 542 was inserted. As I hear it, the J.P. contract proposal, was a complete list of articles not a list of talking points for discussion between the two locals presidents.

At the end of February we were heading into a union election for all positions. The new officers took over after the vote count on April 29, 2014.
 
Holy! JP actually can send a letter to membership? This is a first for anyone who works at XJT. I guess that's where my money is going seeing he has never done anything like this for us - straight to AA.
 
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FlightController said:
Holy! JP actually can send a letter to membership? This is a first for anyone who works at XJT. I guess that's where my money is going seeing he has never done anything like this for us - straight to AA.
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We get updates often. I'll ask John Matthews and Dan Royal why they along with JP didn't send out updates.
 
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What's laughable about this whole thing is the assumption that any dispatcher outside of 542 actually trusted JP before any of this happened. Like this latest event is somehow the tipping point or something! Does any of his Imperial Guard think for a second any of us who have been around long enough to remember TWA, Reno Air, or AirCal think this is anything less than expected, or that history started with just this merger? This is not a new book, but just another chapter that is very possibly his last.

I understand he has protected his flock well, so I have to ask; will the gift cards be saved for his bail hearing?
 
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