My battle with the FAA

pwttogfk

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So…time for verbal vomit/rant:

I had a lousy week this summer. Got what I thought was a nasty bug bite, turns out to have been a tick bite. Also, as it turns out my body didn’t respond to the usual antibiotics for Lyme disease and I spent a few days in the hospital getting pumped up full of IV drugs after getting Bell’s Palsy and other fun symptoms. Sucks, but that’s what sick time’s for. The specialist who saw me even said it’s more dangerous for me to stop exercising outside than to just keep up my lifestyle. Within a week after finishing antibiotics I was back to biking 100+ miles/week.

Cue the FAA. Called the AME I’d seen last after I got discharged to see what would be needed for my next medical to get the ball rolling early. Find out a couple fun things: said AME retired, and the (very helpful) guy who took over his practice called OKC and was informed that I was grounded and the FAA would want a lot of testing. He suggested I get a clinic specializing in complex medicals involved. So, Mayo Clinic time. I got a long list of tests the FAA wanted from them. Of course not covered by insurance. And because they’re all defined as nonessential care the local (overwhelmed) hospital system took forever to get them done. Ended up driving up to RST to get the last few tests as well as my medical done.

After passing everything from an EKG (the 4th or 5th one I think) to an evaluation from a neurologist who was very confused why he was evaluating me I did a standard 1st class exam. Passed all that stuff too. AME has to call OKC to issue. And…they won’t. They want all my records sent to OKC to evaluate themselves.

I was in the hospital in July. The timeline for the FAA to evaluate my records is 4-9 months. And then they’ll likely have some quack medicine response for me to waste even more time and money on. It’ll likely be a year before I can be PIC again. As of last count I’ve got 6 doctors saying there’s absolutely nothing wrong with me, I’m in the best shape I’ve been in since I was a competitive swimmer in high school, I’ve been flying as a CFI and haven’t keeled over yet.

Oh, and if I end up having to go on disability because of this? Gotta report that on my medical and lower the odds of getting cleared even more. This system is a joke. I’m fortunate to have a company that’s supporting me and out of pocket even more than I am but the FAA’s doing their best to turn me into a cubicle-dwelling paper pusher. Because they don’t understand the difference between an acute and chronic condition.

/rant
 
Sorry to hear this, and it pisses me off when I hear this and similar stories.

Worth it to reach out to your Member of Congress' office?
 
Sorry to hear this, and it pisses me off when I hear this and similar stories.

Worth it to reach out to your Member of Congress' office?
Message is in with my congressional representative. I’ve learned more about the FAA’s process. Like, they consider 90 days to be “reasonable” and won’t look at expedited processing until you wait what they feel is a reasonable time. Also, allegedly mail sits for a couple weeks in OKC for “decontamination.” I could laugh or cry.
 
The whole system is such a joke. I went out for a few months on an out of range thyroid issue years ago. Went on a medication that wasn't okay to fly with until the problem resolved. No big deal. Took a couple months. A couple months later, they changed the acceptable range of the thyroid readings. Based on the undated readings, I never had a problem in the first place.
 
Not that this impacts the big picture, but disclosing disability benefits isn’t an issue for this situation since the FAA will already know why you were on disability. That question is aimed at the airmen that collect some form of disability for an otherwise disqualifying condition, such as a veteran with VA rating for PTSD.

 
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But the FAA has the time and money to have a weekend long conference on taking the men out of airmen. I don't have an issue with de-gendering different terms, but I bet the dysfunctional FAA medical system has negatively affected more pilots than the term "airmen".
 
No advice to add other than I’m sorry. When I got my first medical, I had a similar experience with the AME deciding to reach out to OKC regarding something I casually mentioned before the exam even began that I thought was told in relative confidence (and also the issue being incredibly innocuous), and he didn’t even inform me until I got a call several weeks later. Needless to say, I had several thoughts about that guy that I’m sure echo yours.
 
No advice to add other than I’m sorry. When I got my first medical, I had a similar experience with the AME deciding to reach out to OKC regarding something I casually mentioned before the exam even began that I thought was told in relative confidence (and also the issue being incredibly innocuous), and he didn’t even inform me until I got a call several weeks later. Needless to say, I had several thoughts about that guy that I’m sure echo yours.
There are no "off the record" conversations with an AME. They work for the FAA, not for you. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

I've got a great AME that I trust implicitly for good advice - he works with OKC on a daily basis. I would never expect him to keep anything that I tell him in confidence.
 
Sorry to hear your story :(

I feel for you, the whole system sucks.

Years ago, I had an eye issue would in the end worked itself out by having a SODA, but initially there was that stage where no one knew what would happen and I was told I would potentially be on hold for months waiting for the FAA. The ONLY thing that helped me was my FAA doc personally knew one of the OKC FAA docs (guess they were old college/medical school buddies). That got the ball rolling big time, and my case went fairly quick. There was a comment that had this personal connection not been there, it could have easily taken at least 6 more months (!)
 
No advice to add other than I’m sorry. When I got my first medical, I had a similar experience with the AME deciding to reach out to OKC regarding something I casually mentioned before the exam even began that I thought was told in relative confidence (and also the issue being incredibly innocuous), and he didn’t even inform me until I got a call several weeks later. Needless to say, I had several thoughts about that guy that I’m sure echo yours.
There are no "off the record" conversations with an AME. They work for the FAA, not for you. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

I've got a great AME that I trust implicitly for good advice - he works with OKC on a daily basis. I would never expect him to keep anything that I tell him in confidence.


Solid advice by SteveC. Treat your AME like a FAA doctor. Your goal is to get in, get out, see him once a year (or twice if over age 40 for 1st class).


ANY personal health concerns, issues, etc, should be done with your family doctor/specialist, and if you have ALPA their AMAS group.
 
There are no "off the record" conversations with an AME. They work for the FAA, not for you. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

I've got a great AME that I trust implicitly for good advice - he works with OKC on a daily basis. I would never expect him to keep anything that I tell him in confidence.
I was lucky to get a super cool AME for my first few years. My first visit, he said, "Do not check any of the boxes (for medical issues) before we talk about it." He said the FAA was/is looking for any reason to deny a medical so better to divulge as little as possible to them (without having an obviously disqualifying condition).
 
There are no "off the record" conversations with an AME. They work for the FAA, not for you. Sorry you had to learn that the hard way.

I've got a great AME that I trust implicitly for good advice - he works with OKC on a daily basis. I would never expect him to keep anything that I tell him in confidence.

hence why it’s never a good idea to have your AME and your primary care doctor be the same person.
 
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