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Average -900 approach
Average -900 approach
When I land in Mexico City at 568000 pounds, I want to make sure that plug isn't gonna give when I am doing the post flight.If they wanted us to worry about brake temperatures they would've given us brake temperature indicators.![]()

Our ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.Average -900 approach
Our ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.
Our ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.
Laughs in GuppyOur ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.
That’s spicy.Our ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.
Our ground speed was 180kts over the fence the other night. We were cooking.
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How fast do you guys go over the fence?*Laughs in MD-11!*
Depends on how heavy we were. 160+ IAS was not uncommon.How fast do you guys go over the fence?
How fast does the guppy cross the fence?How fast do you guys go over the fence?
Ref is usually in the 140s. If Ref is over 150 KIAS with 30 flaps you're overweight.How fast does the guppy cross the fence?
Depends on how heavy we were. 160+ IAS was not uncommon.
Ref is usually in the 140s. If Ref is over 150 KIAS with 30 flaps you're overweight.
There's a reason we've spent years and tons of money researching landing performance and investing in crew training on that thing.Basically a lunar insertion. Too fast, you skip off the ground and go hurtling off in to the cosmos. Too slow, it flips over and explodes.
If you put a gun to my head and said “name the average Vref of the 737 or I’ll kill you” I’d probably die. We have way too many different variants and loads. But 140’s sounds about right much of the time. Easily into the 160’s with gusty winds and the appropriate additive though. I did learn a neat thing in recurrent this year. Your V2 speed is pretty close to your TO GW, if you move the decimal place 3 left. Not an exact science, or even something that could qualify as a rule-of-thumb, but more of an observation that one can use to sanity check the V speeds
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