SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Sweep floors and sleep in my own bed every night, or make the same money to spend half my life in crappy hotels? Sorry, easy choice.
Mesa freight
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Sweep floors and sleep in my own bed every night, or make the same money to spend half my life in crappy hotels? Sorry, easy choice.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Same. I’d rather spend evenings at home with my family if I’m making sub 50-60K /year. I enjoy flying airplanes. But it also isn’t the most important thing in the world to me. I’ve had better jobs than flying at the airlines and the only thing that really makes it palatable is being senior and getting a decent paycheck.
And for reference, most senior regional Captains at my shop have been able to make $135-$150K /year and have way better quality of life and way more time off. $150K topped out to fly a 737 is absurd. Even in today’s market.
Does anyone have a breakdown of the various Amazon air carriers (Atlas, Southern, Sun Country, Mesa, etc.)? Also, does Amazon have a primary feeder carrier like Ameriflight? I've been referencing Ameriflight | Airline Pilot Careers, but I would appreciate any additional information. Thanks!
nibake
Powder hound
What kind of breakdown?
According to a recent article (which was terribly written and seriously inaccurate, but it is what I have) it's Atlas, ATI, Southern, and Sunny. I was under the impression that Mesa was doing DHL. Does anyone know that they are going to be doing Amazon?
The best, most concise info I can give you is that Amazon loves places with lousy pilot contracts. Typically places with such pilot contracts struggle to hire. In 2020 they have stacks of resumes.
Thanks for the reply. Do you have any additional information on the feeder carriers for Amazon? I would imagine that they use a few of the Part 135 operators to service smaller communities, but I have no literature to back that up.
TWP
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it’s not even close to a difficult decision. One is an easy, turn your brain off ZERO STRESS job, the other is a high stress high responsibility never home nightmare. Gee what would I rather do to be broke hmmmmmm?
nibake
Powder hound
I think it's just the carriers that I mentioned. Zero 135 action that I'm aware of. They don't really have that feeder air link that FedEx and UPS have. I believe the smallest airplane for Amazon would be the 737. It's definitely more of a one-way distribution than FedEx and UPS. I recently did my first Prime flying and it was loaded one way and nearly empty on the return.
You might be better answers from guys at ATLAS or ATI since my carrier is just getting feet wet and has a different model.
Boris Badenov
This is no laughing matter.
Wow, just saw this. For comparison, from the Omni CBA:
LIGHT CATEGORY C/A (<220,000 lbs.) Longevity DOS DOS+1 4% DOS+2 5% DOS+3 4% 1 $143.85 $149.60 $157.08 $163.37 2 $149.17 $155.14 $162.89 $169.41 3 $172.81 $179.72 $188.71 $196.26 4 $178.28 $185.41 $194.68 $202.47 5 $185.54 $192.96 $202.61 $210.71 6 $191.00 $198.64 $208.57 $216.91 7 $196.47 $204.33 $214.55 $223.13 8 $201.92 $210.00 $220.50 $229.32 9 $207.38 $215.68 $226.46 $235.52 10 $212.81 $221.32 $232.39 $241.68 11 $218.28 $227.01 $238.36 $247.90 12 $222.84 $231.75 $243.34 $253.07 Section 3: Compensation Page 20 LIGHT CATEGORY F/O & F/E (<220,000 lbs.) Longevity DOS DOS+1 4% DOS+2 5% DOS+3 4% 1 $96.07 $99.91 $104.91 $109.10 2 $101.43 $105.49 $110.76 $115.19 3 $117.50 $122.20 $128.31 $133.44 4 $121.21 $126.06 $132.36 $137.66 5 $126.17 $131.22 $137.78 $143.29 6 $129.87 $135.06 $141.82 $147.49 7 $133.60 $138.94 $145.89 $151.73 8 $137.30 $142.79 $149.93 $155.93 9 $141.02 $146.66 $153.99 $160.15 10 $144.71 $150.50 $158.02 $164.34 11 $147.60 $153.50 $161.18 $167.63 12 $150.57 $156.59 $164.42 $171.00
I mean I know we don't have 737s, but we're not exactly overpaid.
LIGHT CATEGORY C/A (<220,000 lbs.) Longevity DOS DOS+1 4% DOS+2 5% DOS+3 4% 1 $143.85 $149.60 $157.08 $163.37 2 $149.17 $155.14 $162.89 $169.41 3 $172.81 $179.72 $188.71 $196.26 4 $178.28 $185.41 $194.68 $202.47 5 $185.54 $192.96 $202.61 $210.71 6 $191.00 $198.64 $208.57 $216.91 7 $196.47 $204.33 $214.55 $223.13 8 $201.92 $210.00 $220.50 $229.32 9 $207.38 $215.68 $226.46 $235.52 10 $212.81 $221.32 $232.39 $241.68 11 $218.28 $227.01 $238.36 $247.90 12 $222.84 $231.75 $243.34 $253.07 Section 3: Compensation Page 20 LIGHT CATEGORY F/O & F/E (<220,000 lbs.) Longevity DOS DOS+1 4% DOS+2 5% DOS+3 4% 1 $96.07 $99.91 $104.91 $109.10 2 $101.43 $105.49 $110.76 $115.19 3 $117.50 $122.20 $128.31 $133.44 4 $121.21 $126.06 $132.36 $137.66 5 $126.17 $131.22 $137.78 $143.29 6 $129.87 $135.06 $141.82 $147.49 7 $133.60 $138.94 $145.89 $151.73 8 $137.30 $142.79 $149.93 $155.93 9 $141.02 $146.66 $153.99 $160.15 10 $144.71 $150.50 $158.02 $164.34 11 $147.60 $153.50 $161.18 $167.63 12 $150.57 $156.59 $164.42 $171.00
I mean I know we don't have 737s, but we're not exactly overpaid.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
That's awesome! And they make good money too.
Stone Cold
Well-Known Member
Most don't...oh, I see what you did there.
Boris Badenov
This is no laughing matter.
TWP
Well-Known Member
Since I’m a member of “Le Great Time-Out” just sitting at home bored I picked up a kid job. I gotta say, there is ZERO mental stress and the standard workday seems to fly by after being on four day trips.
