Meetup/Retreat

a 320 takeoff from SNA with just 2 pax was kind of sporty. Because it’s SNA, Not allowed to FLEX had to go TOGA flaps 3. Takeoff weight was 96000. I think we got to V1, rotated before taxiway H.

found out what happens when you reach the +30 degrees normal law pitch limit. Plane still continues to accelerate.well past v2 + 10. And you get the phone call from the FOQA gatekeeper…
 
USMCmech said:
When I was in training at Mesa, we had two CFI timebuilders who had no experience outside of teaching in South FL.

We had to hold turbine engine 101 class at the hotel after class.
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I guess things have gotten better at Mesa where some new hires have some turbine experience. There was a time Mesa ran new hire classes where no one had more than 250hrs of total time and no one knew what an turbine engine was.

come to think of it they were all cadets too. Within a year everyone flowed to Skywest and republic.
 
mikecweb said:
May I ask when you flowed to AA and why did you goto the "Palace" instead of flying the line? I genuinely would like to know if you enjoy AA so much why spend so much time recruiting for Envoy?
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I really don't mind but will be very vague as a large majority on this site seem to be hyenas ready to pounce on me for speaking the truth here. Let's just say I went over 3 or 4 years ago. And I'm flying either the 73 or Bus. That clear things up for ya?

As to why I care so much. I love where I come from. Envoy is just as much a part of AA as I am. Cruising at 370 between the headsets, I'm thinking recruiting. Why? The pipeline program, developed by American Airlines, is where 90% of your new hire pilots are going to come from in the very near future. I actually prefer 100% These aviators are the equivalent of the military aviator in the 80s and early 90s. You don't get the training and readiness out of anyone else like you do a pipeline instructor. Spending four years of college familiarizing with 121 ops and procedures gives one THE base from which everything is built brick by brick. You don't get that in a military aviator.
 
Dacuj said:
I really don't mind but will be very vague as a large majority on this site seem to be hyenas ready to pounce on me for speaking the truth here. Let's just say I went over 3 or 4 years ago. And I'm flying either the 73 or Bus. That clear things up for ya?

No...It doesn't....

Cruising at 370 between the headsets, I'm thinking recruiting. Why? The pipeline program...
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Dacuj said:
I really don't mind but will be very vague as a large majority on this site seem to be hyenas ready to pounce on me for speaking the truth here. Let's just say I went over 3 or 4 years ago. And I'm flying either the 73 or Bus. That clear things up for ya?

As to why I care so much. I love where I come from. Envoy is just as much a part of AA as I am. Cruising at 370 between the headsets, I'm thinking recruiting. Why? The pipeline program, developed by American Airlines, is where 90% of your new hire pilots are going to come from in the very near future.
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Hey, can you tell me more about how Envoy's pilot retention program is competitive with the one which Piedmont just announced?
 
Dacuj said:
I really don't mind but will be very vague as a large majority on this site seem to be hyenas ready to pounce on me for speaking the truth here. Let's just say I went over 3 or 4 years ago. And I'm flying either the 73 or Bus. That clear things up for ya?

As to why I care so much. I love where I come from. Envoy is just as much a part of AA as I am. Cruising at 370 between the headsets, I'm thinking recruiting. Why? The pipeline program, developed by American Airlines, is where 90% of your new hire pilots are going to come from in the very near future. I actually prefer 100% These aviators are the equivalent of the military aviator in the 80s and early 90s. You don't get the training and readiness out of anyone else like you do a pipeline instructor. Spending four years of college familiarizing with 121 ops and procedures gives one THE base from which everything is built brick by brick. You don't get that in a military aviator.
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No that actually didn't clear anything up. Again ill ask why did you go straight to the "Palace" if the job flying at AA is so great? You can PM me if you don't want it public that's fine. I'm just trying to understand your passion. I just can't make the connection
 
mikecweb said:
No that actually didn't clear anything up. Again ill ask why did you go straight to the "Palace" if the job flying at AA is so great? You can PM me if you don't want it public that's fine. I'm just trying to understand your passion. I just can't make the connection
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I didn't go straight there. I spent some time online. A really good friend over there recommended me for a special position.

To me, Envoy and AA are the same. I have a passion for recruiting as I want to see the best of the best here.
 
Dacuj said:
To me, Envoy and AA are the same.
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1. The first couple days of class the union (if you have one) will introduce you to your carrier's contract. If your contract only covers your regional and is not the same contract the parent company pilots work under, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

2. The first couple days of class HR will have you sign up for the company's 401k. If you are not receiving something north of a 12% direct contribution without a requirement for you to contribute while the parent company pilots are enjoying that direct contribution, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

3. The first couple days of class you will probably bid for an aircraft and a base. If the only aircraft available to you have 76 seats or less, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

4. The first couple days of class you will have access to your seniority list. If it doesn't include all the pilots at the parent company, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class. Furthermore, if you are hired at Regional Air today, and I am hired at Legacy Air tomorrow, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class if when you flow to Legacy you are not a higher seniority number than I am.
 
MikeFavinger said:
1. The first couple days of class the union (if you have one) will introduce you to your carrier's contract. If your contract only covers your regional and is not the same contract the parent company pilots work under, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

2. The first couple days of class HR will have you sign up for the company's 401k. If you are not receiving something north of a 12% direct contribution without a requirement for you to contribute while the parent company pilots are enjoying that direct contribution, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

3. The first couple days of class you will probably bid for an aircraft and a base. If the only aircraft available to you have 76 seats or less, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class.

4. The first couple days of class you will have access to your seniority list. If it doesn't include all the pilots at the parent company, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class. Furthermore, if you are hired at Regional Air today, and I am hired at Legacy Air tomorrow, you are not a legacy pilot the day you start class if when you flow to Legacy you are not a higher seniority number than I am.
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This post is nothing more than semantics and you are just twisting the facts here.
 
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