Medical question......

I have semi crappy color vision. I have a hard time passing the color vision tests that the doctors gives, although I can pick out the primary colors all day long. I was able to get a first class medical for my flight training, but the doctor said I would be disqualified for flying in the military. Will this disqualify me from being a controller or since I am on the fence will they let me squeeze by?
 
Shane702 said:
I have semi crappy color vision. I have a hard time passing the color vision tests that the doctors gives, although I can pick out the primary colors all day long. I was able to get a first class medical for my flight training, but the doctor said I would be disqualified for flying in the military. Will this disqualify me from being a controller or since I am on the fence will they let me squeeze by?
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Check the Ask A Flight Surgeon forum. It's really helpful and if your question is not already answered, you can start a new thread and the resident Dr. can answer any questions you may have.
 
Shane702 said:
I have semi crappy color vision. I have a hard time passing the color vision tests that the doctors gives, although I can pick out the primary colors all day long. I was able to get a first class medical for my flight training, but the doctor said I would be disqualified for flying in the military. Will this disqualify me from being a controller or since I am on the fence will they let me squeeze by?
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I know the first color test you take is the Ishihara Color Test which looks like this:

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I know if you can't pass that test there is an alternate test you can take, but if you can't pass either I'm pretty sure you'd be out of luck.
 
mbalunda said:
I know the first color test you take is the Ishihara Color Test which looks like this:

600px-Ishihara_9.png


I know if you can't pass that test there is an alternate test you can take, but if you can't pass either I'm pretty sure you'd be out of luck.
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What do you see?

I see a bunch of differently colored dots...:D
 
its 74, I have problems with the blue/green one.

I am actually more concerned with the hearing test... 20db is extremely quiet and being in that booth with the headphones on is like being in an isolation chamber, last time I took one I swore I was hearing things.

I think I read somewhere that the ambient noise in a quiet library is around 60 db.
 
As a reference, most vacuum cleaners are from 60-90 db... Just don't listen to loud music before the test and it will be gravy ;)
 
Do you guys who failed something at the PEPC know about how much time it adds to the medical process once you get all the needed information from your doctor?

Would it help to have the information on my medical conditions in hand when/if I get to attend the PEPC or are they going to send me home anyhow to get specific information from him.
 
jamin35008 said:
Do you guys who failed something at the PEPC know about how much time it adds to the medical process once you get all the needed information from your doctor?

Would it help to have the information on my medical conditions in hand when/if I get to attend the PEPC or are they going to send me home anyhow to get specific information from him.
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GET EVERYTHING if you have a medical condition. I had a freaking notebook full of all of my past medical records - medical, dental, and vision - and still didn't have everything. If you had something in the past (i.e. - kidney stone), be prepared to have something (chest/abdomen x-ray) that proves you don't have it anymore, even if it was 4 years ago. If you have a condition, make sure you have some kind of medical documentation that proves you are in good health and that the condition is controlled.
 
jermscentral said:
GET EVERYTHING if you have a medical condition. I had a freaking notebook full of all of my past medical records - medical, dental, and vision - and still didn't have everything. If you had something in the past (i.e. - kidney stone), be prepared to have something (chest/abdomen x-ray) that proves you don't have it anymore, even if it was 4 years ago. If you have a condition, make sure you have some kind of medical documentation that proves you are in good health and that the condition is controlled.
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Thanks jermscentral...thats what I was thinking, but wanted to know if anyone else had experience with it.

If you have everything they need to prove your in good heath will they take that paperwork so you dont have to return to the doctor and delay the medical clearence?

Does the paperwork need anything special other than being on the doctors letter head..ie... notarized or a rased seal of some sort?
 
jamin35008 said:
Do you guys who failed something at the PEPC know about how much time it adds to the medical process once you get all the needed information from your doctor?

Would it help to have the information on my medical conditions in hand when/if I get to attend the PEPC or are they going to send me home anyhow to get specific information from him.
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My medical is delayed due to my taking anti-depressants 6 1/2 years ago. I asked the A.W. (Program Analyst) what was I to do because I no longer live in the state I lived in before and the doctor I saw 6 1/2 years ago was unwilling to fill out the questions I was asked to have filled out by them. She told me to just write about the stumbling blocks I was experiencing and just submit that and to NOT go see a doctor. When I called the doctor office that I visited 6 1/2 years ago they told me that my records with them showed that my records were transferred to another doctor I'd seen 5 1/2 years ago. Luckily I obtained that drs notes and they stated that there was no signs of depression.


Dont take my experience as the rule. Contact the medical dept. yourself to see what they would want you to do.
 
jamin35008 said:
Thanks jermscentral...thats what I was thinking, but wanted to know if anyone else had experience with it.

If you have everything they need to prove your in good heath will they take that paperwork so you dont have to return to the doctor and delay the medical clearence?

Does the paperwork need anything special other than being on the doctors letter head..ie... notarized or a rased seal of some sort?
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I didn't have any kind of notarized stuff with me; all of mine were direct printouts and copies sent to me by my doctors' offices. Whatever you report on your medical form is what they'll ask about. Since I had a kidney stone in 2005, I brought my hospital records showing I was released... but the flight surgeon wanted something that showed I no longer had the condition, so they gave me a form with instructions to get an abdominal x-ray to show it was no longer there. You give your doctor's office the form, they fill it out and fax it back in after your exam, and then the medical info is updated with the FAA. My PEPC was 02/27; I had a doctor's appointment the following week (Wednesday), and my information was recorded as being accepted by the FAA within a week. YMMV.
 
I was just thinking about this last night and could not find the answer.....so say I get through the pepc but I get hung up on (fail) my medical, do I still get a TOL and get my age frozen and then move on in the hiring process after my medical clears or

Do I get through the pepc and fail the medical and then need more info from my doc. and no TOL until after I get medical cleared?

Thanks!
 
jamin35008 said:
I was just thinking about this last night and could not find the answer.....so say I get through the pepc but I get hung up on (fail) my medical, do I still get a TOL and get my age frozen and then move on in the hiring process after my medical clears or

Do I get through the pepc and fail the medical and then need more info from my doc. and no TOL until after I get medical cleared?

Thanks!
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The TOL comes after the interview, before any of the other exams. So yes, your age is frozen before before your medical clears. That's if you go to the PEPC. I believe it's the same for traditional routers, as well.
 
jcpilot said:
The TOL comes after the interview, before any of the other exams. So yes, your age is frozen before before your medical clears. That's if you go to the PEPC. I believe it's the same for traditional routers, as well.
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It is the same for the traditional routers, but they typically don't get their TOL any time around when they interview. It can take weeks for their TOL to arrive after their interview.

For me, that fact alone makes the PEPC worth it. You end the day knowing you've got the job. The traditional route leaves you with some unneeded and stressful days of waiting.
 
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