I've always loved the -262. Now I know why!
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KSCessnaDriver
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Could have been either. Rotec builds some cool stuff, but I've heard their part support is very, very lacking. Also, the Titan T-51 can be built with a Rotax to make it an LSA, if you pin the gear. If I was building a non-LSA limited Titan T-51 I'd go down the Honda or Suzuki V6 route.
WacoFan
Bigly
I still think, if someone wanted to lose a couple million, that a really good way to do that would be to buy the Warner type certs and start building 185 hp Warners again. There'd be a good demand - the baby Waco F's, (RNF's), Fleets, Monocoupes, Great Lakes', and I think you could build some neat homebuilts around the engine. Have to buy the type certs for Aeromatic props too I would think.
Brian29
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The Skyraider makes me feel funny in my unmentionables, in a good way.
KSCessnaDriver
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Nah, there is a guy making new Aeromatic props these days http://www.aeromatic.com/. I want to fly a Great Lakes with Ranger power, seems like a neat combo. One of these days (hopefully later this month) I'll get my Aeronca back to Kansas City.
As time wears on, the warbirds are becoming increasingly cost prohibitive to operate. I spent quite a bit of time with both Nazy Hirani (N514NH/ SuSU) and Bob Odegaard. The were both well known warbird collectors, and in the case of Odegaard, rebuilder and manufacturer. Bob built both Super Corsairs, Race 57, and Race 74. In reference to the Mustang, flight time is around $3200 an hour, with a buy cost of over 3 million, after airframe, insurance, and other costs. The Corsair cost over $4500 an hour to fly, and the sell price of Race 57 was undisclosed. Precious Metal, the racing Mustang, the operating cost per hour is about $4000.
I talked with a guy down in Coolidge a few days ago. He has a T-6. .30 a minute was his answer to cost to operate. Hacker15e can weigh in on this stuff, as well. He knows these numbers well.
Collings Foundation has their schedule posted on the website. They're making 4 stops here in town.
I talked with a guy down in Coolidge a few days ago. He has a T-6. .30 a minute was his answer to cost to operate. Hacker15e can weigh in on this stuff, as well. He knows these numbers well.
Collings Foundation has their schedule posted on the website. They're making 4 stops here in town.
z987k
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That would certanily be easier and a lot cheaper, but if you're going to build a real mustang brand new you might as well build a real mustang. It would have to be a really high output pt6 though. I mean can you get 1600hp out of one even?
SeanD
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Negative, King Cobra disagrees.
No doubt that is a cool looking airplane. Didnt the US sell most of them to the Russians because they weren't as good as the P51?
PositionAndHold
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F-4U FTW. Close thread. Shutdown JC.
Ever since I was a small child that airplane has always given me a tingle down below. I used to watch Baba Black Sheep religiously. I think I knew Pappy Boyington's name before Bugs Bunny or Mickey. I think that I knew it was filmed on an old strip about 20 miles east of SZP made me even more of a fan. In fact we ordered this for the boys room, http://www.lampsplus.com/products/48-inch-fantasy-flyer-airplane-ceiling-fan__38551.html
He wont be here for another 2-3 weeks and I might be projecting a little, but I hope he digs it as much as I do some day.
KSCessnaDriver
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Depends by, not as good as the P-51. Most of the airwar in Russia was down low, neither the Germans or Russians had much in the way of strategic bombs, so they didn't have any reason to be up high. Both the P-39 and P-63 were sold in numbers to the Russians, but part of the purchase agreement on the P-63 was it wasn't to be used against the Germans, IIRC, but there are stories of them doing it anyway.
bunk22
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The Corsair is the sexiest plane ever!!!! Nice Bearcat in the background too!!
BTW, the one time the Corsair and P-51 Mustang fought for real, the P-51 went down!!! Yes, superior pilot but the Corsair was still the victor
907
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My most vivid memory of going to the Reno Air Races was seeing a Tigercat in a steep bank down low; such a beautiful aircraft.
rd757
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My roommate's father just purchased a T-51 and is putting the Honda in it... I'm excited to see how it performs! I guess they're going to fly it up from LAL (well, X51) to OSH this year, maybe I'll get a chance to see it person there.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Now your talking my language... That is one sexy beast of an airplane. If I was ever wealthy enough to own a warbird this would be it. I'd also have multiple PIC type ratings in old radials. A guy I've flown with a couple times used to be one of the head pilots for the Collings Foundation. He's the one I flew the Electra Jr with... He's PIC typed in the B-24J (2000+ hours) and the B-17G (1000+ hours) and I just flew with him a couple weeks ago when he got back from a 2 week "vacation"... FLYING A B-25 AROUND TO DIFFERENT AIRSHOWS. Talk about an incredible flying career.Psssshhh. Tigercat is the sexiest.
Pilotforhire587
Lycra Man
I have heard from a couple of friends who fly the P51 that the prop and engine make up the majority of the cost of the aircraft. While not cheap, the airframe itself costs pennies in comparison.
flyinguitar
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I can't get excited about a plane that fought to exterminate my people, succeeding enough to erase large swaths of my extended family.
My love for the beauty of aviation overpowers concerns I have about Japanese or Russian planes, but Nazi planes are just too over the line for me.
No problem if it doesn't bother you... just something to think about.
My love for the beauty of aviation overpowers concerns I have about Japanese or Russian planes, but Nazi planes are just too over the line for me.
No problem if it doesn't bother you... just something to think about.
WacoFan
Bigly
Planes don't kill people. Nations led by aggressive, fascist dictators that want to rule the world, commit genocide and such, all for the Aryan race, kill people.
I guess I can see your point in a way but wouldn't it also extend to Soviet aircraft? I mean, Stalin killed many millions of his own people - and chances are that your ancestors perhaps were among them (unless you are a member of the Stalin family in some way) - so between the purges, neglect in various camps and gulags or other means then perhaps your same logic should apply to any Soviet or Soviet marked aircraft?
Actually I've thought about this issue. I am firmly in support of placing Japanese and German warbirds - in their correct markings - into the public realm (hopefully not static displays) and applaud that - it helps tell the story of history. What I've wondered is an airplane like a Bucker Jungmeister - the Stradivarius of airplanes. Lots of Buckers are done up in Swiss markings. I would probably do mine up in pre-war Nazi colors just due to relative scarcity. Perhaps Romanian like Alex Papana's but Kermit Weeks did his that way and I wouldn't want to offend the God that is Kermit Weeks.