Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

I'll amend my previous post, since it sounds like the time frame was inaccurate. Anyway, looks like they may have found the area.
 
I hope these signals are from MH370. If so the families will hopefully get some closure and the real investigation can begin.
 
Is it common knowledge that the ULB's have to be tested and cleaned as a regular MX task? Never had an issue testing them, but I often wondered why we were required to clean them. A very thin film of oil on a ULB could cause it to not start sending a signal. Those of you that can access your CVR/FDR should look at the little silver doohickey hanging off the front of the ORANGE BOX. If your mechanic has a brain in their head they will have installed it with the P/N, S/N and Exp. date facing out.
 
I would have liked to have seen Montana...

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So, if I were a news organization, what I would seek to provide the newsreading public would be a timeline of this debacle. Kinda like a crime investigation timeline. What happened? In what order?
I'm still trying to figure out why the listening devices have been deployed apparently only in the last 10 days or so. One would think they would have been deployed almost immediately, at the very least, as soon as any reasonable search area was identified. Have I missed something? Were they deployed earlier than has been reported?
 
Crop Duster said:
So, if I were a news organization, what I would seek to provide the newsreading public would be a timeline of this debacle. Kinda like a crime investigation timeline. What happened? In what order?
I'm still trying to figure out why the listening devices have been deployed apparently only in the last 10 days or so. One would think they would have been deployed almost immediately, at the very least, as soon as any reasonable search area was identified. Have I missed something? Were they deployed earlier than has been reported?
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Interesting question, I was thinking the same thing. I think the U.S. Navy provided equipment two weeks ago.

A back of the napkin calculation tells me that a single towed receiver might be able to cover 4800 square nm per day if they could operate 24 hours a day (10knots, 24hours, 20nm swath).

I also wonder if multiple towed sensors have been provided.
 
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I don't follow you. They aren't even going to sink a submersible until they think they are on top of it.
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Uhh, debris floats? You think think the plane, if even down there is fully intact, completely sealed and nothing would have come off it or out from it on impact? Follow me, "Floating debris field"
 
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Uhh, debris floats? You think think the plane, if even down there is fully intact, completely sealed and nothing would have come off it or out from it on impact? Follow me, "Floating debris field"
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It it unlikely that the aircraft is intact. The true debris field will be at the bottom of the ocean, i.e. the aircraft and it's contents/parts. How far do you imagine that after 31 days the debris which was around the impact area and floated to the top would have traveled due to the currents and winds, and what percent of said debris after becoming saturated/waterlogged, would have sunk below the surface? What percent of the debris would be scattered apart from other debris due to size, shape and weight and no longer be "clustered" but spread apart far and wide? Why would you think that the debris would be right around or even near the downed plane after all of this time? This area had not been searched until the re-calculation of the radar and satellite data only a few days ago. Or am I not understanding what you are trying to say?
 
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Uhh, debris floats? You think think the plane, if even down there is fully intact, completely sealed and nothing would have come off it or out from it on impact? Follow me, "Floating debris field"
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I'm sorry, I didn't associate "debris field" with floating debris.

Given the length of time since the crash, I would imagine the floating debris is pretty spread out. In light chop, I've had a hard time spotting small boats, so that doesn't surprise me.
 
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Uhh, debris floats? You think think the plane, if even down there is fully intact, completely sealed and nothing would have come off it or out from it on impact? Follow me, "Floating debris field"
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31 days and allowing for a 1-2kt ocean current = debris has spread out and moved 700-1400+ miles from where it could have started. That is assuming that much of it is still floating above the surface after that much time. Lots of what might have floated initially would probably be waterlogged now, and at best neutrally buoyant. Sailing offshore I rarely would see anything on the surface, but you would see all kinds of stuff hovering a few feet below.
 
I think it's a pod of whales farting. They're thinking, stupid humans, we're trying to sleep here and they're all up in our face using sonar? Well, damn, here's some gigantic farting noises for you to deal with.
 
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