Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

SeanD said:
If all this stuff they are spotting from space isnt part of the airplane then the Indian Ocean has a major pollution problem. l
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Are you familiar with ghost (lost drift) nets?

Drift nets can be a couple of miles wide and swallow up floating matter. Drift nets were 20 and 30 miles wide as late as the 1970's. They can collect a city block of floating trash.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
Are you familiar with ghost (lost drift) nets?

Drift nets can be a couple of miles wide and swallow up floating matter. Drift nets were 20 and 30 miles wide as late as the 1970's. They can collect a city block of floating trash.
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Funny you say that. I was just talking to my brother 5 minutes ago and he said "Its probably old fishing nets"
 
SeanD said:
How come the search planes wait until 0800 to take off from Perth? You would think they would leave prior to dawn since the trip takes 4 hours.
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Remember they are tracking west, following the dawn - so if they leave Perth at 8 am, 90 minutes after dawn, they should arrive at the search zone (oh am not going to do the math 100% accurate nor check the time zones... but) they should arrive at the search zone around 90 minutes after dawn as well (could be 60 or 120 but that sort of scale) - just as (for example) a flight from Charlotte leaving at 8 am local time (90 minutes after dawn say) will arrive in Los Angeles at 9:30 local time (180 minutes after dawn) after a 4 and 1/2 hour flight.

I suspect that the sun would need to be a certain height to make surface searching easier (or maybe even possible) as a low sun would make identifying objects in it's direction very difficult and there may be issues with reflected glare as well..... am just guessing at the second part - well based upon looking out of aircraft windows around dawn as well...
 
Watching this press conference with the Aussies and they said the new radar information came from an accident investigation team in Malaysia. Really? Twenty days later and they decide to share it?
 
NewYorkophile said:
Wha? Same engines on the Herk, and you'd get a cross-eyed look doing something like that. Max endurance is something like 140kts at 20 flap...not sure where the "max endurance on 2-engines" performance chart is...

EDIT: As a side note, Herk endurance is somewhere in the 10-hour range, even at low levels. Usually a duty-day limit before a fuel limit.
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Pretty sure you cant unfeather a C-130 prop (54H60-?), but I'm positive you can on a P-3 (54H60-77?).
 
SeanD said:
That country is looking more and more sketchy over this everyday. First they eliminate the pilots as a cause, now we have some unknown source claiming he knows something based on no evidence, who chose to spill it to a Malaysian amateur, freelance writer? Cough! Cough! •! Here is my conspiracy theory. I think Malaysia has a good idea what happened to this airplane and they want to cushion the burden of massive lawsuits by throwing the pilot under the bus.
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The Dave Chappelle theory!
 
SeanD said:
Watching this press conference with the Aussies and they said the new radar information came from an accident investigation team in Malaysia. Really? Twenty days later and they decide to share it?
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I'm having issues with RADAR returns 1000 miles off shore.
 
fholbert said:
I'm having issues with RADAR returns 1000 miles off shore.
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The whole thing is sketchy. Im with the majority here. I say they have no clue where its at and Malaysia is sending them on wild goose chases. I share the same opinion as Miles OBrian ;)
 
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SeanD said:
The whole thing is sketchy. Im with the majority here. I say they have no clue where its at and Malaysia is sending them on wild goose chases.
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I have a hard time believing all of these countries would do that without some hard credible evidence...

I mean I guess Malaysia could "fake" it til they make it... meaning keep people in the dark so long the plane is never found
 
Vector4Food said:
I have a hard time believing all of these countries would do that without some hard credible evidence...

I mean I guess Malaysia could "fake" it til they make it... meaning keep people in the dark so long the plane is never found
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Thats my opinion on it. For what ever reason, that seems to be what they are trying to do. Just like all the rest of the theories, at this point, anything is a possibility. They are trying pretty hard to make this go away. From what Im understanding is that they have refused requests to release the airplanes MX records. Why not share the records with the countries that are spending countless hours searching for their airplane while they sit in Malaysia fumbling through radar data that should have been released weeks ago? Its just not adding up, unless they are truly incompetent to handle this, in that case, they should have handed it over to someone else.
 
I feel pretty strongly that they have it narrowed-down to the correct hemisphere. As far as the assistance they are getting from other governments, I think they are just treating them like military exercises and writing them off as good for foreign relations.
 
Objects have been spotted and photographed by the search planes in the new area.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26786549

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But nothing identifiable has been photographed in the new area. Breathe in and out slowly. We've seen this movie before as well, the first time a day or two after the plane went missing when Vietnam reported oil residue "consistent with what one would expect from a Boeing 777."
 
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